jtryka Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Now available is this modern over-strike "1964-D" Peace silver dollar, the most exacting and faithful rendition ever produced. Holding this coin in hand gives the viewer a true sense of what it would be like to own an original 1964-D Peace silver dollar. And since these are over-struck on genuine Peace silver dollars, they have the correct weight (no metal is added or removed), correct metallic content, and correct diameter. Even the number of reeds on the edge (189) is correct. And to top it off, all the over-strikes are privately and painstakingly performed using a surplus Denver Mint coin press ! In an ironic twist, the original 1964 Peace dollars are illegal to own. But this modern fantasy is LEGAL and is not required to carry a "COPY" stamp for the following reasons: 1) These are not copies of Peace silver dollars - they are privately over-struck on GENUINE government-issue Peace silver dollars that were originally minted from 1922-1935. 2) According to the US Treasury, no 1964 Peace silver dollars survived - so this can't be a copy of one since they don't exist. 3) Defacing of US coins is legal so long as the defacement isn't for fraudulent purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRnholio Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Now available is this modern over-strike "1964-D" Peace silver dollar, the most exacting and faithful rendition ever produced. Holding this coin in hand gives the viewer a true sense of what it would be like to own an original 1964-D Peace silver dollar. And since these are over-struck on genuine Peace silver dollars, they have the correct weight (no metal is added or removed), correct metallic content, and correct diameter. Even the number of reeds on the edge (189) is correct. And to top it off, all the over-strikes are privately and painstakingly performed using a surplus Denver Mint coin press ! In an ironic twist, the original 1964 Peace dollars are illegal to own. But this modern fantasy is LEGAL and is not required to carry a "COPY" stamp for the following reasons: 1) These are not copies of Peace silver dollars - they are privately over-struck on GENUINE government-issue Peace silver dollars that were originally minted from 1922-1935. 2) According to the US Treasury, no 1964 Peace silver dollars survived - so this can't be a copy of one since they don't exist. 3) Defacing of US coins is legal so long as the defacement isn't for fraudulent purposes. There's a huge thread about this coin on the Collectors Universe forums. It really seems like the guy making these is doing some serious rule bending. Personally I think it should have some kind of identifier to make sure it is never confused with a real 1964 dollar. I understand that collectors wouldn't pay nearly as much for one with an ugly "COPY" branded into the design, but it really should have a mint mark or some note to make sure people realize it was minted privately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 There's a huge thread about this coin on the Collectors Universe forums. It really seems like the guy making these is doing some serious rule bending. Personally I think it should have some kind of identifier to make sure it is never confused with a real 1964 dollar. I understand that collectors wouldn't pay nearly as much for one with an ugly "COPY" branded into the design, but it really should have a mint mark or some note to make sure people realize it was minted privately. I don't think there is any danger of it being confused with a real 1964 peace dollar, since any that exist are subject to immediate confiscation. Although these are not stamped "copy" they do have a clear identifier in the mintmark, which is doubled, and easily compared with all of these coins as minted. Although there is controversy, I think they are cool, and somewhat of a stick it to the man in that technically they cannot possibly be a fake since they are a restrike of a coin that the government has assured us does not exist! Here is a link to the details including the close up of the mintmark diagnostics (just click the enlarged photos): http://www.dc-coin.com/1grabenercoinpressmedallionsaleprice-1.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Nice piece, that I'd also be concerned about its legality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Got this one in the mail last week: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Loving the Sesquincen, Art! How much of a commem collection do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Loving the Sesquincen, Art! How much of a commem collection do you have? Well, I don't know how many Art has, but I have only this one, a BTW and several Columbian halves as far as the classic commems go. Though I am bidding on an Oregon Trail that I'd like to get for my uncle for Christmas! The rest I have are all modern commems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Ha. Sorry, jtryka. I saw the yellow avatar in the corner of my eye. This makes more sense. I'm surprised you don't have more classic commems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 There are only a few that I think are pretty from the early ones, and quite frankly the way they did them I find quite annoying from a collector standpoint (how many Oregon Trail halves do I need? they minted them from 1926-39!). This one was just an opportunistic purchase as have been all the others that I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottO Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 1992 UK ecu set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 There are only a few that I think are pretty from the early ones, and quite frankly the way they did them I find quite annoying from a collector standpoint (how many Oregon Trail halves do I need? they minted them from 1926-39!). This one was just an opportunistic purchase as have been all the others that I have. Oregon and the Texas commems are all I like from that whole series. I have a MS-67 Texas, now I need a nice Oregon to compliment it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I like the commemorative coins both modern and classic. The "swindler" history of some of them gives them great history in addition to what they commemorate. I had once set out to learn and collect a date set of Commems but gave it up. Just too expensive for my budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Well I did win that Oregon today for my uncle, I'll post photos when it arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Well I did win that Oregon today for my uncle, I'll post photos when it arrives. \ Congrats on the win. Looking forward to seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Thanks Art, it had horrible photos but it was in an old NGC fatty slab graded MS-65, so hopefully it turns out well! My uncle was born in 1937 and loved cowboys and Indians, so I couldn't think of a more appropriate coin from his birthyear! I just hope he doesn't take a hacksaw to the slab so he can polish it up with his jeweler's cloth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Thanks Art, it had horrible photos but it was in an old NGC fatty slab graded MS-65, so hopefully it turns out well! My uncle was born in 1937 and loved cowboys and Indians, so I couldn't think of a more appropriate coin from his birthyear! I just hope he doesn't take a hacksaw to the slab so he can polish it up with his jeweler's cloth! Instructions are in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Instructions are in order. Here is the coin, and definite instructions are in order! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Here is the coin, and definite instructions are in order! Great coin. Hope he enjoys it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiho Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Came last week... I like the badger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Came last week... I like the badger! Me too. Great coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 First two things that came to mind: 1. Silvertowne logo 2. Arm and Hammer baking soda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I dont think I've ever seen that coin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I got my 2008 Presidential Dollars in today's mail. So now my Registry Set (see below) is at 100% for inventory and all PR69DCAM coins. <a href="http://coins.www.collectors-society.com/registry/coins/MySets_Listing.aspx?PeopleSetID=115439"><img src="http://boards.collectors-society.com/signatures/signature.php/NGC/set/115439/sig.jpg"></a> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I got this one in the mail today, and it's not "Nordic gold"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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