schutzenfester Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 1929 Bellinzona, Canton TicinoR1468a / M859Federal ShootSilver27mmEngraver: Agostino Balestra / Huguenin, Le LocleRR Perhaps a tad more rare than RR in terms of procurement and sightings. As I have stated previously, looped medals are difficult to place in my normal template, please pardon the simple format. :black eye: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 This was a duplicate of the above post...deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Agree. If I weren't pinching pennies, I'd add a few more to my collection Lately I have been pinching pennies out of my collection, and banknotes too. Just way too many doubles, stuff I am not interested in. I only have one Swiss Shooter the one from Bern Langenthal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 1974 Tirol, Austria State ShootSilver40mm Proof A modern shooting medal from Austria. I have always liked Austrian medals from the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries The more artistic and silver ones are somewhat difficult to come by since they do not come to market often, one reason is because there are fewer to begin with. I obtained this modern medal of 1974 because the engraving piqued my interest, it is larger than many Austrian silver shooting medals and at the time I had never seen this example offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Another double submission. Not sure why this is happening. Has this happened to anyone else recently? The last two times I submitted a post, when I clicked submit I received an error message when I used to just see my new post. After I refresh I see my post but there are two of them, so I delete the duplicate and add text and in this case this explanation. Error message: Warning: Base directory HTML_PURIFIER_PATHcache/tmp does not exist, please create or change using %Cache.SerializerPath in /home/omnicoin/public_html/ips_kernel/HTMLPurifier/HTMLPurifier/DefinitionCache/Serializer.php on line 133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I have not posted any pictures of Swiss shooting abzeichen (shooting badges/decorations) so I thought I would whet your appetite with a few rather old and rarer ones. Of the 15 pictured here, 7 of them are silver. Silver abzeichen are rare and usually the silver ones are from the 1920's and 1930's and earlier. I have seen abzeichen from the late 1800's and I'm sure most of you have seen the modern ones being sold as shooting medals on the bay. Starting with the top row left to right: (1) Late 1920's, Distinction award, Silver (2) Mels 1928 (3) Bellinzona, Ticino 1929 (4) Bürglen, Thurgau 1932, Silver (5) Ranger Shoot, 1937, Silver (6) Langau, Bern 1937 (7) Section Competition, Vaud 1920, double sided (8) St. Galen 1929 (9) Late 1920's, Silver (10) 100 years of the Carabiniers 1925 (11) Arosa, Grabünden, Winter Shoot 1937 (12) Brütten, Zürich 1933 (13) Reinach, Aargau 1935 (14) Bern, Bern 1926, Silver (15) Basel about 1930, Silver The abzeichen from the 1920's and 1930's and earlier are more difficult to find than common shooting medals. 1940's to 1960's are about as easy to obtain as common shooting medals and the abzeichen from the last 40 years are somewhat easier to find and obtain. The average market for the latter is about $5.00 - $10.00 and some of the older ones like those I have pictured are considerably more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Wow. Several of those I love. How much easier are they to come by vs. the medals? I can't read all of the years. Which is the oldest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Wow. Several of those I love. How much easier are they to come by vs. the medals? I can't read all of the years. Which is the oldest? Starting with the top row left to right: (1) Late 1920's, Distinction award, Silver (2) Mels 1928 (3) Bellinzona, Ticino 1929 (4) Bürglen, Thurgau 1932, Silver (5) Ranger Shoot, 1937, Silver (6) Langau, Bern 1937 (7) Section Competition, Vaud 1920, double sided (8) St. Galen 1929 (9) Late 1920's, Silver (10) 100 years of the Carabiniers 1925 (11) Arosa, Grabünden, Winter Shoot 1937 (12) Brütten, Zürich 1933 (13) Reinach, Aargau 1935 (14) Bern, Bern 1926, Silver (15) Basel about 1930, Silver The abzeichen from the 1920's and 1930's and earlier are more difficult to find than common shooting medals. 1940's to 1960's are about as easy to obtain as common shooting medals and the abzeichen from the last 40 years are somewhat easier to find and obtain. The average market for the latter is about $5.00 - $10.00 and some of the older ones like those I have pictured are considerably more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 As many of you are aware, along with schützenfest medals there are also tokens. Here are a few for your reference- Token 1844 Basel, Canton Basel Shoot This token has a counter stamp on the obverse and reverse. R43f Br 23mm RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Token 1868 Pontoise, France R681a Brass/Copper 23mm RRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Token Lausanne , Canton Vaud R540b Br 20mm RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 1911 Olten, canton Solothurn R1130a / M653 Jubilee Shoot Gold 23 mm Mintage: 60 pieces (without "A") Engraver: Holy Freres, St. Imier RRR In original case of issue. Please note that many sellers state original case of issue when a medal is available in a case. Unless the case is identified to the specific shoot or some other type of unique identifying feature then there is no "proof" that the case is the original one. Over the years many dealers have acquired cases that accept different millimeter diameters and have put medals in them, this does not make the case the original one. However, there are many cases that were not identified (embossed) in any way when awarded, thus in original case. Because of this, it is easy to call a case the original case of issue and many times it just may be but other times not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 That's really cool, Rod. At first, I thought the medal was a brass that took the tone of gold. But in the holder pic it is much more apparent it is gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yeah, that is a medal I would buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Nice indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Rod - I collect medals from World's Fairs - especially the 1904 St Louis fair - amazing how few boxes and paperwork are available for the medals - I did buy one on eBay once curiously enough from a seller in Great Britain and for a pittance of a price. I also collect the 1918-1920 Memorial Plaques or "death pennies" with original paperwork and it is even much more difficult to find them - but I did find the original mailer, paperwork etc for an American soldier that served in the Royal Army during the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Rod - I collect medals from World's Fairs - especially the 1904 St Louis fair - amazing how few boxes and paperwork are available for the medals - I did buy one on eBay once curiously enough from a seller in Great Britain and for a pittance of a price. I also collect the 1918-1920 Memorial Plaques or "death pennies" with original paperwork and it is even much more difficult to find them - but I did find the original mailer, paperwork etc for an American soldier that served in the Royal Army during the war. Hi, Finding medals in the original case is always a positive. I have been lucky enough to acquire some medals with the original winner's name tag on the case, medals with notes inside them regarding the shoot and or the recipient, and a number of souvenir medals that have their original price paperwork within. I have some very old shooting medals in their original paper wrappers as issued at the shoot. It is quite rewarding to find this type of paperwork included with a medal as you well know and it also increases the value of said medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 1892 Le Locle, canton NeuchátelR959b / M519Cantonal ShootSilver45 mmMintage: 705Common While I have a few of these, this along with the case is an ideal example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 1923 Luzern, canton LuzernReference R885Field Shoot, Honor MedalSilver30 mmR This medal is seldom seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Vedy vedy nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 1859 Zürich, canton ZürichR1724d / M101Federal Free ShootWM41 mmEngraver: Sebald Drentwett, AugsburgRIn original paper wrapper issue - RRR Picture 1: The medal in UNC/issued condition (other than 154+ years in the paper wrapper) Picture 2: Shows the medal inside the original paper wrapper as issued. Picture 3: Shows the text written on the inside of the wrapper once unfolded. The paper wrapper is folded in such a way that it is tucked in to itself so it remains wrapped and intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Sebald Drentwett is probably an ancestor of Balduin Drentwett(Germ 1545-1627), who worked in, Augsburg http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php/topic/34483-ludwig-hoerman-of-augsburg-1580/ beginning a widespread Augsburg dynasty of goldsmiths, silversmiths, and Medalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Here is an almost perfect example of a beautifully engraved shooting medal. It was obtained in the original case of issue (shown here) from which it has been rarely removed since the day it was awarded. 1891 Burgdorf, canton BernR215a / M133Bern Cantonal Shoot 45 mmMintage: 1656Engraver: Franz Homberg, Bern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corina Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 very nice looking medals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Thanks, it is a pleasurable hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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