The_Cave_Troll Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 I was at my friendly neighborhood coin dealer yesterday looking through his "junk silver" bin (he charged me 5.75 times FV) for some circulated Franklins to finish a set and I found this coin. I would like your opinions on the date. I have my opinion and I will share it later, but I want to know if I am imagining the date or if you can tell too. The coin is probably a F2 in grade (that's what I voted for), but I would like your opinions there too. Even if it isn't worth anything I only paid $2.875 for it so I'll be ok. Obverse: Reverse: Close-Up of Date: Well, what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggAndyy Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 My guess is it is a 1921 Philly. Here is my evidence: I took the image from a 1921 walker and superimposed it onto the close up pic of your unknown. The protected area that is left fits very well into the space inbetween the bottom of the '2' and the '1' in 1921. Since there is no indication of mint mark on the reverse it is probably a Philly mint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy452 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 AG3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpnyc Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 I agree that it looks like a '21. If so, its a nice find. I'll call it a FA-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prgrmr Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Essentially dateless, so I gave it an F-2. I looked through the various books I have to see what they had to say about what constitutes "fair". The ANA Grading guide doesn't mention Fair, but does state on page 23 for "About Good" that "the date is barely readable". Not sure if this qualifies or not. The Red Book doesn't mention Fair. Brown and Dunn mention both About Good and Fair, but both are stricter than applied today. My 1962 edition of the "Blue Book" mentions Fair but not About Good. Go figure. It'd be an interesting study to see when both of these terms made it into mainstream collecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcollektor Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Although I gave this a P1 in the poll, I revise up to F2. It`s really a toss up. IMHO no date in my book is Poor. BiggAndyy`s overlay shows it might be a 1921. How`d you do that anyway, BiggAndyy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggAndyy Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 I went to PCGS website in their registry gloating section and looked through all the walkers until I found the one that might allow that wear pattern. As far as the overlay, it is a 50 percent reduced cutout pasted over top of the 1921 coin I found at the PCGS site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16d Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Good eye, bigA. It's a shame it doesn't have just abit more diagnostics to convince PCGS, a 21 in P1 or even F2 in plastic would bring bigger $$ than a G4. Teaches you to spend some time at the bargain bins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Lord Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 great job on the homework Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Poor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Cave_Troll Posted June 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Good eye, bigA. It's a shame it doesn't have just abit more diagnostics to convince PCGS, a 21 in P1 or even F2 in plastic would bring bigger $$ than a G4. Teaches you to spend some time at the bargain bins. What makes you think it is unslabbable? I spotted it as a 21 in a huge bucket of junk silver by just glancing at it. I expect that a grader familiar with the series, and its wear pattern, would spot it as a 21 pretty quickly, too. Oh well, we'll see, eventually I intend to try submitting it, just to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 P01 for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcentavo Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 ag3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 F2 for the type. Normally, I'd call this AG3, but I do note that WLHs generally are pretty high relief, and take alot to wear out. No PO-1 from me since it's not close to being flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowtracks Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 F-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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