extant4cell

Hi Sigi, I opened a topic about authenticity of this coin on CFN ( http://coins.su/forum/index.php?showtopic=99541 ) if you are interested you can check it out for the answers, as I am about to go to bed... I wonder what they will say... Cheers!

His finished items are here: http://www.ebay.com/...omplete=1&rt=nc Most of them are replicas (in my opinion). Both sold 10 kopecks in copper are very similar (fields are both clear). Very similar to original dies. Sellers sometimes mix original and replica coins when they sell them for a better look in eBay listing. Similar condition of 10 kop. coins, in spite of difference of 10 years, make me suspicious, particular if you look at his other coins. I can not prove if it is a fake coin though... Anyone else? I can ask on Russian forum as well...

I wouldn't bet on it. Looks like a fading silver plated coin...

May be I am asking a silly question, but looking through the past main auctions I noticed that 1761 Novodel / Partern Denga coins have different types, or perhaps there is a different explanation? It appears that some Novodels were struck with original dies and some with new "better technology" ones and some with original that were cut a bit more using new technology (perhaps). Bitkin (Биткин) lists 7 coin types (620 621 622 623 624 625 626) can anyone check why he listed 7 numbers? I don't know why he listed so many, and moreover, why so many different Novodels exists. How many official re-strikes were there, does any one has an idea? I could group them into 3 main types, but I believe there were more than one set of dies in each type that may result in sub-types possible to exist. Here are the pictures from MD ( http://www.m-dv.ru/c...906/prohod.html ) with 3 types I put up together: Type I: 2012 - 2006 - Type II: 2011 - 2009 - Type III: 2000 - Please comment... PS: Sorry, the year should read 1761 (not 1762) in the title...

IMHO: It depends on what it was cleaned with. If they used petrol or acid to clean it, and what the original condition of the coin was. People called these coins "coppers" (медяки [medyaki]) and believed that "copper" coins keep value even after money reform, as it's too much trouble for government to take the old ones from circulation (and that happened once or twice during Soviet rule). So, many people where keeping "change jars", full of "copper" coins, for the day when they run out of money or for when the reform will come unexpectedly again. This kept a lot of coins out of circulation and environmental damage, so you may be just lucky to get one of these coins. And if it was not cleaned with corrosive substance, the condition may be pretty good, after careful cleaning that is. Don't be surprised if you get one in a very good condition. I am more puzzled by these identical 3 line scratches. I've seen them before. Metro use?

I will not argue with that! Have nothing to say in the defense of his "100% authentic coins" ...

Gone for $565... Very suspiciously looking coin. He has other coins for sale, a little better looking, but too similar to some very good quality cast copies I remember someone was selling from Israel a few months ago... but they had them all well centered...

Looks like casting work... The field is very suspicious...

OK... Life is long, I guess... There should be one destined to find its way to my collection when the time is right...

Sold to a buyer on a floor after auction...

That's it! I forgot... That one was in a waffle cup ... They still have something of a kind. I can get it here in Russian grocery store sometimes...

I think I will stay away from Sixbids for bidding from now on. Steve, I've sent Markov an e-mail. We'll see what happens... My next question will probably interest others too - what did you buy this time? Karl, what do you think about this Novodel? Cheerio!

Thank you Steve for your info. Too bad for me... Something must have gone wrong with my bid. I didn't get confirmation e-mail from Sixbids or auction house. I never used Sixbids for bidding before, only for search, always dealt with auction houses directly. I liked that coin very much. Do you know what happens to unsold lots?

Nice to have these in collection.

They should do testing rounds before the auction and sell it after... That's strange. I put my bid on it via SixBids - $1060... The strange thing is that I can not find my bid on SixBids now... Steve, when you say it didn't sell, does that mean no one bade on it in the room, or did they remove it from auction? I wonder how sixbids works with NY Sales? I haven't registered with the NY sale, but bade via SixBids, did I have to be registered with them directly as well, or it doesn't matter? Sorry, too many questions from me today...

Пломбир (Russian ice-cream)? I never collected Soviet coins especially, always Tzarist Russian coins. Only some uncommon (for circulation) once that were obvious for a kid, that they were reasonably uncommon. But I did have the 1970 coins (in brass), since they were my birth-year coins...

LOL ... Well, it's 11th already here, cannot they hurry up?

Anyone knows how / where to see the results of this auction, or if I can have the results for this lot (1134) please? (extract from official e-catalog) I can not find it on SixBids or on NY sale website...

1970 in white metal were always tough to find. My year of birth, and I lived in USSR and yet I don't have have them. Probably because I never bought a coin - always swapped them when I was a kid...

What about this one (have it for the last 30 years), or is it beyond recognition? Is it Moscow mint (according to year of mintage)?

Here some auction results with prices (Russian site): http://www.m-dv.ru/c...069/prohod.html Here is an example from there:

Where can I find the results of this auction? I am interested in the results of this lot: Thank you in advance.

I'm glad you saved the money though. I'm sure another great discovery is just around the corner. 10 Kop. 1762 ...

All I can say -

I was really hoping for you it was genuine...