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"The Anniversary of the State Sovereignty of Russia" commemorative 1 ruble coin was released in 1992. I have these two planchets shown above that are somewhat similar to the coin here: Link Now what do you think it is? I remember posting this on the world coin forum (but that was when this forum section didn't exist) and the general opinion might be that it can't possibly be a pattern. The same post was made at a Russian coin forum, and I guess no one knew of it's existance except to declare that it's some sort of fantasy issue. ---------- - There are some pelicular things about these planchets, that is the awful similarity of the theme, but different design. Notice that the Basilica was NEVER minted in gold. - The mintmark on this particular planchet is actually MMD, instead of LMD, which struck the commemorative 1 ruble NiCupro coins. - A typical Russian style to denote the metal fineness is at the bottom left, which is denoted as "Au 900 15,55" - Planchet size are exactly 29,95mm, which is accordance to a typical 100 ruble, which is 30mm(+- 0.25) mm against a typical NiCupro which is 31mm. The edges of both planchets are actually MILLED! ------ Now back to the original story, in the past, most Soviet precious metal commemorative coins other than silver seem to have some sort of trial sample done. But what does these two planchets mean? If these are genuine, what sort of meaning would they have? If these are fakes or fantasy issues, would someone else other than the MMD / LMD mint be able to make such planchets, other than other world mints? I personally don't think a private individual has the availabilty to strike such planchets... Now... discussion time... I am really hoping that there is new material / resources available to open light to this unusual question that I had for some period of time.

20 years! And I only collected for 3-4 years

Now you see why I emphasis a bit too much on the edging, is not only because of the different varities of the edging style, but you will never know if it might be a previous European planchet used for such striking. In recent Dimitri Markov auctions, he auctioned some unique overstriked coins, which is quite interesting.

Now that's a stunner! Did you check the edging of that particular coin BKB? Seems like the edging done during that particular time was thrown in total chaos and my 1720 crappy ruble actually has 1719 edging on it.

I don't actively collect banknotes but this is an uncut banknote that I got from a friend some time ago. Note that I have 4 of the digits "666". I wonder if my friend is trying cursing me

Where is Murmansk and the 10 ruble dude? :/

Now you know why I avoided US coins in the first place, exept I really regret it nowadays as Russian coins seem to be more expensive than US coins these days

Yikes! Are there dealers that deal with such serial numbers?

Where did 4 and 6 go?

That is VERY well done. Thanks for the link!

Wow, really nice buys there Burks.

Just one thing in case people are wondering about: That word that just means "Chinese" in traditional Chinese writing format. This as well: Probably the simplified version of "fu", which means prosperity.

I can see why others wouldn't dare to do such jobs - they must be very good with maths and not too many people would play around with small decimal figures on large sums. If I am not mistaken, isn't the signature of Goh Chok Tong on the current 2 dollar polymer note?

Indeed, I can agree. I have changed to and from USD back in Singapore while I was there. I was very adamant about such notes after the bad experience in Russia. Fortunately, the money changers in Singapore are very trustworthy.

Something that I had to add, but US 100 dollar bills in the past terribly lagged behind some major world currencies in terms of security. At times I get paranoid when people doubt the authencity of such money. Just recently, my mom found a 1974 old and tattered 100 dollar bill that she got a long time ago. I don't even know if that is genuine or not, nor what to do with it. Perhaps it is time to switch over to polymer?

That's quite common actually overseas. From my experience of what I hae seen I swear I have seen at least 40% that are in such conditions. I learned my lesson that such notes should not be used in Russia, as they love to reject such notes, leaving me with not too much of an option.

WOW. I saw that coin in a local coin store and I must admit it is an impressive coin, perhaps only to match one Slovakian commemorative coin that I have in mind. Congradulations!

Wow, I don't believe it's too common. Perhaps an Euro banknote collector can tell you more about it.

Does this explain why Romanian gold coins are so expensive? http://www.coinvault.com/k-z.htm Pretty expensive but nice!

We have more than 150 coinpeeps in here - perhaps we can all hoard it for ourselves

Only 150 pieces?! Damn mint frauds

This is one of the oldest commemorative ruble minted in Russia that I have: Mintage of just 15,000 Old commemoratives that were minted in Russia before 1917 often have a mintage less than 300,000 except for the Nicholai II 300th Anniversary of Romanovs, with mintage of 1.5 million.

Will pm you over it.

Will do asap!!!

You know, the post service is a lot better than here. They don't even deliver a SINGLE parcel probably except if you are disabled. And you have to show ID from time to time even though you got the slip... etc... I.e. the postman just delivers papers and slips... P.S. parcels as in anything that's not in envelope format is considered parcel and hence, collect it yourself... bleh...