MoS Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 First I got in this fight with this guy on irc over it being called a cent. He says WikiPEDIA calls it a penny. I told him it a cent not a penny, I tried searching down information were it shows it really not a penny but a cent, I even explain that on the coin it says cent not penny. But he still doesnt believe me, he wants solid goverment proof. 0 Anyone have anything like that I can see? Or should I even bother with this NON-CoinCollector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdrv Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Despite the prevalence of the common term "penny", the U.S. Mint has never actually minted a coin for which this is the official name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Cent_%28U..._States_coin%29 Solid government proof: it says "ONE CENT" on the coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echizento Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Offically it is a cent, it say so right on the reverse. I don't know how or when it started to be called a penny but I remember buying penny candy at the store and asking my Mom for all her pennies to check for old ones. I think collectors will call it a cent, and non collectors will call it a penny. Just my 2 cents. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Offically it is a cent Right, but in many countries certain denominations have "nicknames". In the UK, for example, £1 is a "quid". In Germany, the word "Groschen" was quite common for the 10 Pfennig coin, and in the Netherlands the (old) 5 cent coin was called "stuiver". The latter two refer to coins from earlier times. So maybe the "penny" in the US has a similar pedigree. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockwalliper Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 In the Presidential coin act of 2005 Congress calls it a penny. So, by an act of congress its now a PENNY! SEC. 304. NUMISMATIC PENNIES WITH THE SAME METALLIC CONTENT AS THE 1909 PENNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggAndyy Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 First I got in this fight with this guy on irc over it being called a cent. He says WikiPEDIA calls it a penny. I told him it a cent not a penny, I tried searching down information were it shows it really not a penny but a cent, I even explain that on the coin it says cent not penny. But he still doesnt believe me, he wants solid goverment proof. 0 Anyone have anything like that I can see? Or should I even bother with this NON-CoinCollector? If his sole authority is the government don't worry about him. No matter what you say he will keep on bleating to the beat of his overlords and taskmasters. If the coin MINTED BY THE GOVERNMENT is not government enough for him then forget it. Go get yourself a milkshake and enjoy some TJ Hooker reruns on Nick at Nite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 My 2 bits says it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan769 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Go get yourself a milkshake and enjoy some TJ Hooker reruns on Nick at Nite. Young Heather Locklear, yummmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burks Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 For about 19 of my 21 years on this rotten planet I called the Lincoln coin a penny (still do sometimes). But over time I've learned to use and love the word "cent". People give you strange looks but oh well. BTW: Wikipedia = sucks. People who try to support their claim using that I normally laugh at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 BTW: Wikipedia = sucks. People who try to support their claim using that I normally laugh at. It is like saying "Doh, I am too cerebrally challenged to really research something so I will look it up on Wikipedia, it is done always rahght ain't it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 It is like saying "Doh, I am too cerebrally challenged to really research something so I will look it up on Wikipedia, it is done always rahght ain't it?" Depends. If I just want to look something up quickly, I do use Wikipedia. Sure, I also have the Brockhaus encyclopedia on DVD, and when in doubt, I would rather trust that, or more subject specific sources. When reading (or "using") a Wikipedia article, a grain of salt can definitely not hurt. But I don't think it sucks. (Sometimes it helps reading the discussion pages too though ...) Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggAndyy Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 No, it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 I say, "Who cares what you call it?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 From the brochure attached to the coin set "Collecting America's Coins: Beginner Basics" issued by US Mint in 2005 (Thanks Kat for this!): "Pennies and Cents The nickname "penny" for one-cent coin comes from our Colonial period, when the major currency used in the American colonies was the British pound. The pound was divided into 12 pence. The name stuck, although we use "pennies" instead of "pence". The French were among the first to think of dividing money into 100 parts, but the United States, encouraged by Thomas Jefferson, was the first country to adopt the system. The term "cent" comes from French word cent, itself derived from the Latin centum, meaning one hundred." That's the (official) story of the nickname "penny". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaddevil Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I AM BAAAAAACKKK. Anyway it doesnt really matter wat u call the coin both names sound nice. i just like the coin not the name:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Last night I watched a move released by the US Mint and the BEP called "The Money Story", at every instance they referred to the Lincoln as a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I have seen this argument dive head long into the dump over at RCC, where it turns into vitriolic name calling etc. I find it sardonically humourous, I just cannot imagine being so impassioned about the descriptive name of a coin that you resort to spouting foul effluence towards other collectors in a forum about such. Next, is it a buck or a dollar or a Sackie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockwalliper Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Oh yeah? Oh Yeah!? Well........Your mother wears Cent loafers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Oh yeah? Oh Yeah!? Well........Your mother wears Cent loafers!! Yeah! That's what you think. She actually wears SBA loafers. (Sufferagette and all that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just carl Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I've read this same discussion in many places and the best answer so far was to try singing this song: Cents from Heaven? Or is it Pennies from Heaven?????????? Everyone I've known for the last 60+ years say pennies. I've never heard anyone yet say "Look, a CENT on the ground." "Or do you have any CENTS in your change?" Our English Language is made up of what people say, not what a few want. Just think that silly words like AIN'T was once a word our Moms and teachers said not to use. Now it's in the dictionary. This is why we shouldn't even call our language English, it should be the American Language. Of course if you live in some areas it's just Mexican lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labmom Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Oh yeah? Oh Yeah!? Well........Your mother wears Cent loafers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Whatever. I call it both or what ever makes cents at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuldFartte Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 In the Presidential coin act of 2005 Congress calls it a penny.So, by an act of congress its now a PENNY! SEC. 304. NUMISMATIC PENNIES WITH THE SAME METALLIC CONTENT AS THE 1909 PENNY. Then the new ones had better be huge. The 1909 "Penny" was a British large penny. That's where the use of the term "penny" originates in the U.S. - we were a British colony after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 This is why we shouldn't even call our language English, it should be the American Language. Actually most US books, when published in Germany, will say "Aus dem Amerikanischen von XYZ" which means "(Translated) from American by XYZ". With British books that would be "Aus dem Englischen von XYZ" ... Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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