akdrv Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 We got our first legal action threat over a post in the fake coin forum. ------------------------------------------------ Topic: Fake Portuguese c/m on Spanish Mexico 8 reales ------------------------------------------------ Link to post: http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php?showto...st&p=454974 ------------------------------------------------ Report: NOTICE. I am the owner of the ebay account your member (narper)is posting (4fscu). The poster is making claims that are false, LEGAL SLANDER and you are libel for it's content. This post has been viewed by over 108 people. If it is not removed immediately you will need to consult an attorney. I have printed the post. IF IT REAPPEARS IN ANY FORM I WILL BE FORCED TO TAKE IMMEDIATE LEGAL ACTION. I will expect a response concerning your actions to my email account at ucsf4@yahoo.com. Please forward your company's address for Legal Service. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdrv Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 My reply: Dear Gunther, 1. Views and opinions expressed in fake coin forums are the author's, and do not necessarily represent those of Coin People forum. 2. ALL CAPITAL LETTERS ALWAYS MAKE ME MAD. 3. You are welcome to discuss the authenticity of your coins in the forum. We are a friendly bunch and will be more than happy to take your side in this discussion if you present a convincing argument. 4. Any further threats of legal action or abusive behavior towards other forum members will result in removal of your account. Best regards, akdrv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Keep us updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 My reply: Dear Gunther, 1. Views and opinions expressed in fake coin forums are the author's, and do not necessarily represent those of Coin People forum. 2. ALL CAPITAL LETTERS ALWAYS MAKE ME MAD. 3. You are welcome to discuss the authenticity of your coins in the forum. We are a friendly bunch and will be more than happy to take your side in this discussion if you present a convincing argument. 4. Any further threats of legal action or abusive behavior towards other forum members will result in removal of your account. Best regards, akdrv In my opinion, your reply is courteous, measured, reasonable and appropriate. I note that you did not point out to "Gunther" that the terms "slander" and "libel" are not synonyms, nor are "libel" and "liable", a temptation which, unlike you, I would probably not have been able to resist. My compliments to you for your admirable self-restraint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 akdrv, your response was appropriate IMHO. And now 120 people have viewed the other post! I might add that it is always worth it to report something to eBay as well ... one never knows, but sometimes they DO remove questionable listings. It happens more often now than in the past, I think. Give them a chance to do the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 A funny coincidence ... in the ads banner at the top of the forum just now, an ad from http://www.avengence.com has popped up ... wonder if it is worth $15,000 to Gunther to get them to take some kind of action? (Edit: oops, it's gone again ... of course, the ads are constantly changing...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 A funny coincidence ... in the ads banner at the top of the forum just now, an ad from http://www.avengence.com has popped up ... wonder if it is worth $15,000 to Gunther to get them to take some kind of action? (Edit: oops, it's gone again ... of course, the ads are constantly changing...) I can't help but wonder what legal liability might exist for anyone who actually contracted and paid for such a "service". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 NOTICE. I am the owner of the ebay account your member (narper)is posting (4fscu). The poster is making claims that are false, LEGAL SLANDER and you are libel for it's content. This post has been viewed by over 108 people. If it is not removed immediately you will need to consult an attorney. I have printed the post. IF IT REAPPEARS IN ANY FORM I WILL BE FORCED TO TAKE IMMEDIATE LEGAL ACTION. I will expect a response concerning your actions to my email account at ucsf4@yahoo.com.Please forward your company's address for Legal Service. Thank you. Empty Threats! Here's his latest eBay feedback: "The coin received was fake - confirmed by specialist - please retuen my money!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narper Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hello Hi akdrv I´m sorry for any inconvient, but I´m sure for what I've said. In my country it is commom to said that "an image worth more than 1000 words", so here is an image of a true "crowned shield" countermark, and every body could judge for themselves: As about Mr. Gunther, he know my name and my location, so he is free to charge against me if I´m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corina Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 all he is doing is trying to scare people with hollow threats cause he is busted as a scammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 And now 120 people have viewed the other post! 159 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockdude Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Geez, even the threat is a fake! What's next? "CEASE AND DESIST OR MY BROTHER DAVE WHO ALMOST MADE IT THROUGH NAVY SEAL TRAINING WILL FLY TO CANADA AND PORTUGAL AND BREAK YOUSE GUYS' KNEES AND SUCH"... Give me a break... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLoafer63 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them. — Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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