NumisMattic2200 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Found this on ebay, I love this type of coin and this one looks nice and shiny!100 pesetas whizzed? On the other hand the surface doesn't look perfect, is this what a coin looks like after it has been shone up in some way? I believe the process is known as 'whizzing'... I could be wrong Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtryka Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Doesn't look whizzed, but it looks like it might have some PVC contamination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Quick Q that I should know the answer to: What exactly is whizzing? How about dipped? I try to stay away from them anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggAndyy Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Whizzing would make everything nice and shiny, not hazy like this coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syzygy Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Quick Q that I should know the answer to: What exactly is whizzing? ... That’s a very good question and I am glad to see it asked. With my re-entry into coin collecting 3-4 years ago I notice that we sometimes make some sweeping conclusions without a commensurate agreement on definitions. Terms like whizzing, PVC, dipping, even cleaning in general get used quite often but are operationally defined far less often. From what I can surmise, whizzing is poorly defined but seems to refer to a procedure where a fine metal tool or brush or burr or some similar element is used to refinish a coin’s surface - maybe assisted with a small dental drill or some similar power tool. The result is that the coin, especially the fields, are excessively and unnaturally smooth and free of defects. The procedure is going to remove all tarnish and, as Andy said previously, will result in a very shiny appearance. When I have seen dealer’s coins that have been labeled as “whizzed” they have an unnaturally perfect appearance – particularly with regard to the fields. They almost have a re-plated look, it’s hard to explain but I think there is a lot to be gained by making it a point to check out “problem” coins at shows and dealer’s when they are labeled as such. A very interesting treatment on “whizzing” appears here. I appreciate this fellow’s style and he is sometimes a contributor to RCC but I don’t know if he posts here. Of course, a contentious thread followed, but that is part of the territory. Google link that might work The coin the OP mentioned does not appear to be whizzed in my opinion (I note that the OP simply asked the question and did not say it was). I don’t think it has PVC damage either. I see the same surface mottling that the OP sees, but I can’t tell what caused it or even speculate whether it is some kind of environmental damage or if it was intentionally messed with or if it is represents what the coin looks like in hand. It does, in my opinion, detract from the eye appeal of the picture of the coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marianne Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Here's a whizzed coin. Those circular polishing lines aren't obvious under certain lighting conditions/angles, but the surface has an unnatural sheen that really stands out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Looks OK to me...I think what you're seeing might be the way that the light toning looks against the lustre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockwalliper Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ask the seller if the coin has been cleaned, polished, dipped or whizzed. Also ask about the return policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WranglerOldDan Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 In answer to your quesston NM2200, the coin isn't 'whizzed' in my oppinion. At high resolution I could see no circular motion in the metal. As for what is 'whizzing' here is a quick answer: whizzing It is when the metal of the surface of the coin has been mechanically moving in a lightly circulated motion, and visible in the surface luster. The normal method to do this is a high-speed dril having a wire-brush attachment. It don't take much to move the surface metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syzygy Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 In answer to your quesston NM2200, the coin isn't 'whizzed' in my oppinion. At high resolution I could see no circular motion in the metal. As for what is 'whizzing' here is a quick answer:whizzing It is when the metal of the surface of the coin has been mechanically moving in a lightly circulated motion, and visible in the surface luster. The normal method to do this is a high-speed dril having a wire-brush attachment. It don't take much to move the surface metal. Moving metal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 syzygy - glad to see even more experienced collectors are having trouble with that one.. :>/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Ask the seller if the coin has been cleaned, polished, dipped or whizzed. Also ask about the return policy. I'm not sure if that would be fruitful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 its always better to ask!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WranglerOldDan Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Moving metal? Any time you apply even a fairly light application of brushing to the surface of a coin, you in effect move the metal in which it comes into contact. It's this movement of metal that make the light reflection seem to be seen as a circular motion. Hope this makes sense, as I'm not always the best at explaining things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 I think I'd have to see this up close to know for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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