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These might help you decide, obviously the company built a lot of ships & issued medals for each. Some weights are given in the eBay listings. http://numismatica-italiana.lamoneta.it/moneta/W-ME61F/61 http://www.ebay.it/itm/LAURENT-MARCELLUS-VENEZIA-MEDAGLIA-1928-NAVE-MM-30-1470-/151377693983?pt=Militaria_Collezionismo&hash=item233ed04d1f http://www.ebay.it/itm/VENEZIA-Venice-MEDAGLIA-Medal-NAVE-SAN-MARCO-FRANCESCO-MOROSINI-MD1011-/110581064780?pt=Militaria_Collezionismo&hash=item19bf25244c http://www.ebay.it/itm/MEDAGLIA-MEDAL-SOCIETANAVIGAZIONE-S-MARCO-MOTONAVE-LAZZARO-MOCENIGO-1928-MD3666-/370943088424?pt=Militaria_Collezionismo&hash=item565dee5728

I think the 'C' on the obverse is just to show that the obverse is a copy, ensuring it could not be used to create a fake of the Doge's medal, else they could have also put a 'C' on the reverse. Though it could be one of a series put out by an oil company etc. Having it in hand you'll have a better idea if it is a copy, does it seem lightweight, if you could find the weight of the original that would be a help. I do hope it is the real deal Bob Pat

The reverse of your medal is dated 1928, so the obverse is just a copy of the 1457 medal's reverse showing the Doge of Venice Francesco Foscari, The Piero Foscari was a ship launched 7th June 1928, built for the Navigation Company San Marco. Named for the nationalist politician Piero Foscari(died 1923) who headed the Lega Navale Italiana and also claimed he was descended from the Doge Francesco Foscari, hence using the 1457 medal's reverse. The depiction of the Venetian galley on the reverse bears no relation to the 1928 Piero Foscari. Wikipedia picture of the Piero Foscari. Piero Foscari.

I only could find this reply, posted in response to your inquiry. http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=17494 I think what have been described as cherubs are probably the angel Gabriel(God's Messenger) & the archangel Michael(His Sword)

I had not read the blurb posted with the dollar on Omnicoin before I wrote my post. So I had a search to see where this was coming from. http://www.moneta-coins.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=1840&title=1794-united-states-flowing-hair-liberty-silver-dollar&cat=894 Zhou Yong industry; "The genuine US 1794 Flowing Hair Liberty Silver Dollar is in fact an error silver coin. On the obverse, the word LIBERTY was spelt as "LIBBRTY" by mistake, and on the reverse, the word UNITED was wrongly spelt as UNITHD" http://zyy809.wap.blog.163.com/w2/blogDetail.do;jsessionid=035604CBD25C82844E3F512B461D5386.blog57-8010?blogId=fks_081068085083083071081085081095086081087066086082086074&showRest=true&p=4&hostID=zyy809 Now they say all the genuine 1794 dollars are fake, only the newly struck Chinese version is genuine Scroll to the bottom of the linked page, to see the fake 1794 dollar in the National Museum of American History donated by the coin dealers interest group aimed to deceive visitors!!!! https://www.flickr.com/photos/silver-dollar-museum/sets/72157625000668494/# They also claim; "Below: mixed Smithsonian National Museum of History Museum of the United States under the American Numismatic Society and the auction company auction price speculation in 1794 the United States made ​​the Statue of Liberty one U.S. dollar floating counterfeit coins, including the creation of a $ 1.2 million auction record price "American 1794 Liberty one U.S. dollar floating hair "counterfeit money, coins by commercial interests in California established the" Basic Collection Foundation, "museum director and chief curator Martin Logies counterfeit and specialized auction auction company Bowers and Meren CEO Greg Roberts in 2010 On August 7 joint director at auction in Boston, Massachusetts, USA" Which all goes to show, that if you cannot make a half decent fake just claim all the genuine ones are the fakes ergo yours is the real deal

I Just looked at the first one 1794 United States Flowing Hair Liberty Silver Dollar, that was enough! Interesting spelling of UNI (large gap)THD and AME (large gap) RICA & no curve to the lettering.

Thanks for the nice photo of the Iron Duke on Copenhagen & the explanation. I was unaware of any reason why Wellington, in particular, would be so disliked in Glasgow and am relieved it is not meant as a sign of personal disrespect, just a longstanding prank & perhaps also a slight dig at some of the 'Modern Art' in the gallery.

Thanks for your efforts regarding the Games, thoroughly enjoyed them. Now you have a nice memento. As to the traffic cone on the Duke's head, I am somewhat bemused, he was a soldier who tirelessly fought against the French during the Napoleonic Wars, helping to free Portugal & Spain directly & assisting the other European powers in finally freeing Europe from Bonaparte's clutches by defeating the French at Waterloo, later becoming a leading statesman, so to me it just seems to be a mark of disrespect for someone so undeserving of it. Perhaps you could throw some light on the reason why? I guess it would be a far more difficult task to place something on Nelson's head in Trafalgar Square, the pigeons seem to be the only ones able to do that! Could it be that Nelson & Wolfe died in battle but the Duke had the misfortune to survive the Battle of Waterloo?

Bearing in mind that I am perfectly happy with my current set-up & the conditions for using the blank check. I would buy the best & longest telephoto lens made by Canon & could justify the purchase by placing my medals at the end of my rather long garden & taking some shots. It would be just be a happy coincidence that I could also use it for my bird photography

SRS has provided me with some additional info which he obtained from Daniel Gosling of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association (RCNA) in regards to this medal. The Chateau de Ramezay Medals from Canadian Antiquarian and Numismatic Journal Third Series Vol I No 1 January 1897; page 46 63. Breast plate and knipple cleaners. A. Desroches Esq. page 86 CASE 11 Canadian Medals &c. 11. The Desroches Medal. Inauguration of Museum, April 9, 1896. Illustrated History of Coins and Tokens Relating to Canada by P.N. Breton page 232-233 Biography of Alfred Desroches. I had already noted that the medal shared the obverse with the Breton medal, the biography of Desroches by Breton states that Desroche twice sold his collection of coins & medals to Breton, so they were well acquainted which explains Breton allowing Desroches to re-use his obverse. Apart from the one picture & description in Canadian Antiquarian and Numismatic Journal Third Series Vol I No 1 January 1897(the year after the medal was issued) it seems to have just disappeared, no auction sales or references. How many were struck is an unknown, SRS & I have not been able to find any other examples or mention of this medal, except the one in the Ramezay Museum(if it is still there) & our ones, so it seems only a few were ever issued. Here is an earlier medal issued by Desroches also by C. Tison http://www.coinsandcanada.com/tokens-medals-misc.php?title=a.-desroches-numismate-montreal&id=944

SRS has provided me with some additional info which he obtained from Daniel Gosling of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association (RCNA) in regards to this medal. The Chateau de Ramezay Medals from Canadian Antiquarian and Numismatic Journal Third Series Vol I No 1 January 1897; page 46 63. Breast plate and knipple cleaners. A. Desroches Esq. page 86 CASE 11 Canadian Medals &c. 11. The Desroches Medal. Inauguration of Museum, April 9, 1896. Illustrated History of Coins and Tokens Relating to Canada by P.N. Breton page 232-233 Biography of Alfred Desroches. I had already noted that the medal shared the obverse with the Breton medal, the biography of Desroches by Breton states that Desroche twice sold his collection of coins & medals to Breton, so they were well acquainted which explains Breton allowing Desroches to re-use his obverse. Apart from the one picture & description in Canadian Antiquarian and Numismatic Journal Third Series Vol I No 1 January 1897(the year after the medal was issued) it seems to have just disappeared, no auction sales or references. How many were struck is an unknown, SRS & I have not been able to find any other examples or mention of this medal, except the one in the Ramezay Museum(if it is still there) & our ones, so it seems only a few were ever issued. Here is an earlier medal issued by Desroches also by C. Tison http://www.coinsandcanada.com/tokens-medals-misc.php?title=a.-desroches-numismate-montreal&id=944

Pictures & catalog values here http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=17494 refer to their terminology page to get real world values http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_action=terminology I just noticed that this was posted in response to your question

Welcome There is an Exonumia forum here http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php?/forum/14-exonumia-tokens-medals-etc-forums/ if you post it there I am sure you will get some replies.

It appears to be a mule, which, though it might be old, could also be a modern fake from China. If you Google an image search for the reverse inscription 'den siegern bei waterloo gewidmet am 18 Juni 1865' you only see the image with whiskers extending below the chin, two different people, George V of Hanover & Adolf I, Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe. Also in your example the J of Juini looks odd, I thought it was an I at first. They are both stamped 'B' under the bust so if they were struck at the same mint in 1865 it is possible it is a mule produced by a minting error. The edge on the George V thaler has 'NEC ASPERA TERRENT, interspersed with ornaments. The edge on the Adolf has 'WIENER MUNZVERTRAE JAN 1857'. You did not mention what, if anything, is on the edge of yours. So at least you know why there is some doubt about it.

Thanks. I only have a few roman silver coins, my main collecting focus is commemorative medals & tokens from the renaissance to mid 19th century, though I am interested in ancient coins I do not collect them. I am afraid I have not added anything to my Omnicoin collection for years, instead I tend to post them just here on CoinPeople, and I am even behind on that too! My garden is taking up too much of my time....or I just getting lazy in my old age

Welcome Giorgio here is one of my religious medals http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php/topic/33582-the-sacred-mount-of-san-carloborromeo-arona-1614/?hl=borromeo

This topic was started over 6 years ago, at last I finally have proof that the medal was in regard to the King ceding sovereign power to parliament. The same shipwreck scene is paired with this 1865 was when royalty in Sweden gave up power (Oscar I became king of Sweden in 1844. In 1865 he agreed to constitutional reform). 1865, Sweden replaces the medieval four estates parliament (nobility, priesthood, bourgeoisie, peasants) with a modern two chamber parliament. The four pillars showing front; left Nobility & right Church, rear; left, Bourgeoisie & right Peasants with the King protecting all, and of course the 4 pillars of society supporting the King. IN SECULIS HINC ROBUR ET SALUS MAIESTAS ORDINESQUE REGNI PLUS CCC ANNOS CONIUNCTI I roughly translate as; THE NATIONS STRENGTH AND SALVATION WITH THE MAJESTY OF THE KING & NOBLES COMBINED FOR OVER 300 YEARS.

The Harvard Yale medal is awarded to the winners of the track games played between the two universities. They also compete in baseball, football, rowing etc.

The logo of the Spirit Mind Body around the T is for the Troy Y.M.C.A. which arranged the meet & awarded the medals.

Welcome to CoinPeople glad that you at least found this post. Basically the info in this very old post is all I have. I do not think there is anything more available.

The collector that owns the large trial strike of Joseph II in armour, which I compared my tin splash to, joined another numismatic forum(where I had posted the same topic recently) to give me some useful information. Firstly he discounted that my splash was connected with the 'armoured' trial strike, for the obvious reason that he had taken a picture of an unfinished die in the Royal Belgian Mint matching my splash! UNFINISHED DIE COURTESY OF THE ROYAL BELGIAN MINT. I took the liberty of cropping & flipping the image to directly compare the two. He also supplied another of his images of a hub which is very closely related. HUB COURTESY OF THE ROYAL BELGIAN MINT. Then, as he owned the larger 'armoured' trial strike he suggested we both measured from the emperor's corner of his eye to his nose tip. "Theodore van Berckel made many different portraits of Emperor Joseph II in all kind of different sizes. And it's true that Van Berckel on several occasions made different portraits with the same hub by engraving hair, clothes or other features directly into the die that was created with the hub. But in this particular case he probably used two different hubs. Maybe we both could do some measuring. I have that large splash of Joseph II in my collection (in fact I took that picture that is in your post). I could measure it from the tip of the nose to the left corner of the eyelid (where the eyeball touches the corner). If you do the same with your splash we can compare these measurements. If both differ we know that it can't be the same hub, but if they are the same we should try to do another measurement to be sure" "Thanks for measuring the face of his Imperial Majesty. I have done the same with the same results. Maybe your theory is sound after all. It is interesting enough to do some further investigation" Both measured 5.5mm so even if there is no direct relationship between the two the scale is the same regarding the head. He thinks it warrants some further investigation, to see if at first they shared a common hub and then went their own way in development. He is the gentleman, that with others, began the Theodore Van Berckle Biography Web Site http://www.theodoorvanberckel.nl/biography.htm

The type itself is the only one to bear this effigy of Charles. Roettier made another medal for the restoration of Charles II, "FELICITAS BRITANNIA" but used a portrait with long hair that one is listed as 'R'. The one with short hair is listed as 'Not rare' but is the only medal which bears that exact portrait matching my trial strike. The dies for this medal are in the British Museum.

Though this trial strike is unifaced I believe the finished medal pictured with it is the only one to have the same portrait of Charles II. This is the description of the issued medal, which was struck for His restoration: ROETTIER, John: England, 1660, Silver, 63 mm Obv: Bust of Charles II AVGVSTISS. CAROLO SECVNDO P.P. (To the Most August Charles the Second, Father of His Country). Rev: Hercules, Minerva, Peace and Mercury around alter; Prudence behind; Plenty reclining NVLLVM NVMEN ABEST (No Deity Is Wanting). Exergue: BRITANNIAE The trial has no inscription & is not signed but had been holed.

Welcome The original metal is showing through a thin layer of 'silver' it just appears to be a regular coin which has been silvered with a thin layer of silver wash, paint, solder etc. Wait for other opinions but IMHO it is just a curiosity.

We have been having some tremendous rainfall today and it is very dark & cloudy, but with some small breaks, and one of Mrs Cardinals new arrivals appeared at the feeder. Sorry the picture is not the greatest but the light was so poor.