alexbq2 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I recently acquired a very nice 1796 EM Paul's overstrike. The coin's edge has clear remains of the rope edge under the newly applied netted edge. As I understand this is not uncommon, and there are many coins with traces of the rope edge, and even rare 1796 overstrikes with a fully roped edge. My coin also has a clearly visible M from the undercoin's mint mark. From what I have read all 1796 EM overstrikes are minted on mint marked 10 kopeck coins, I assume with the EM mint mark. What I find puzzling is that all catalogs have the 10 kopecks EM with the netted edge. The AM coin has the rope edge. So were the 1796 EM 5 kopecks minted on AM coins, or more likely the EM 1796 10 kopecks has the rope edge, same as the over cypher 10 kopecks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Got an error after posting so click the button again. Seems it worked both times. Could somebody delete the duplicate post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 there is something odd about this coin. The details seem too good on the many levels. Is the coin in your hands yet? Is there a Provenance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I have the coin. It looks good to me. Double overstrike and a die clash.The edge looks good, the coin has a nice texture and rings like a bell - or at least like a big flat copper pancake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I am very careful about fakes, and was not sure about this one either. But now seeing the edge I am sure that this is an original and one of the finest around As to the edge it looks like the rope design \\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (edge 6) was applied over the net design XXXXXXXXX (edge 5). I would say the latest edge (6) counts. This would make it the Bitkin 110 (R3). I both congratulate and envy my friend Alex. Sigi - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 That is a beautiful example. Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted September 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Thank you gentelmen! The coin is indeed very striking. As far as the edge goes, I think it is XXXXXXXX over \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ over XXXXXXXX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 It's a ridiciously impressive coin. Can't say much about the authencity but it's awesome! Congradulations! Now I'm the one that's drooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Thank you gentelmen! The coin is indeed very striking. As far as the edge goes, I think it is XXXXXXXX over \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ over XXXXXXXX. Hi Alex, I agree coin just rare (mix edge).Last time I see finest 1796 R3 coin at Aalborg auction. Something about details of the coin looks different to me, edge is okey. Would be great see coin in the hands. Rarenum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Would be great see coin in the hands. ...... AND take it in custody Sigi - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Hi Alex, I agree coin just rare (mix edge).Last time I see finest 1796 R3 coin at Aalborg auction. Something about details of the coin looks different to me, edge is okey. Would be great see coin in the hands. Rarenum If I ever make it to NY... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 From what I've been told and read on the russian forums, both EM and AM always re-edged the coins. I was even told that the only known 1796 10 kop. EM has the rope edge! Not clear where the inforamtion of the EM netted edge came from, but it appears to be one of those propogated refernce errors. At the same time, I am told, that the other mints that partcipated in the project did not re-edge their coins. I'm not sure how that's possible, does anyone have a non mintmarked 10 kopecks coin? Don't they have the rope edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I just checked the MIM site, and they sold 12 1796 10 kopeck coins without mintmark that had netted edge, and 0 with rope edge! My guess is that if the no mint mark rope edge coin exists, it has the KM edge //////////////////// Has anyone ever seen a common 1793 EM overstrike with the //////////////////// edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Awesome coin, alexbq2! Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I had one with ///////////////// edge. Picture is not great, but here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Finally 1796 coin worthy of Alex! Warmest congrats!!! It's a beauty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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