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This is my effort in collecting 18th Century Russian overstrikes so far.

 

Series 1: 73 Years of Evolution of 5 Kopecks Cross Coin (1723 - 1796) [around 20.48 gram]

 

From 5 Kopecks Cross coin of Peter the Grate, Catherine I, and Peter II

 

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to a 3 year type 1 Kopeck "Baroque" (in the Clouds) of Elisabeth

 

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and to 2 Kopecks with St.George of Elisabeth

 

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to one year type 4 Kopecks "Armature" of Peter III (I am missing this type in visible overstrike from 2 Kopecks)

 

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and to 2 Kopecks with St. George of Catherine II

 

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to 1796 4 Kopecks of Paul I (supposedly prepared for invasion and quickly recoined back to old Catherine II 2 Kopecks coins by Paul I once the plans were abandoned). 4 Kopecks of Paul I are missing (super rare and super expensive).

 

4 Kopecks of Paul I recoined back into Catherine II 2 Kopecks coins by Paul I (missing). The one I had in this place deemed not to be Paul's restrike. Discussion of that coin is below.

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Series 2: 38 Years of Evolution of 5 Kopecks of Elisabeth (1758 - 1796) [around 51.19 gram]

 

From 5 Kopecks of Elisabeth

 

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to Peter III "Armature" 10 Kopecks

 

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to 5 Kopecks of Catherine II

 

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to 1796 10 Kopecks of Paul I (supposedly prepared for invasion and quickly recoined back to old Catherine II coins by Paul I once the plans were abandoned). 10 Kopecks of Paul I are missing (super rare and expensive).

 

10 Kopecks of Paul I recoined back into Catherine II 5 Kopecks coins by Paul I

 

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That's all so far...

 

Have a Happy and Fruitful New 2013 Year!

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...3 year type.

...term for it is "Baroque"...

Thank you for noting that. I didn't do a literature cross referencing when I put this together in a rush late last night while watching "Braking Bad", just relied on my not all that good memory at that time. I've made changes now, to have it right. ;)

 

Very interesting. That's a neat form of collecting.

Thank you!

nice presentation!

Thank you! This is my first effort to put my overstrikes in some meaningful order :yes:

By the way... dont overlook Polushka of Anna overstruck on Kopeck of Peter II, and Denga of Anna overstruck on Kopek of Peter I !

Also, Peter III 2 Kopek overstruck on kopek of Elizabeth! Good hunting!

Thank you for these points. I'll give them a go in the future. So far I concentrated mostly on larger (more visually impressive) coins in my collecting. :)
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Here's my attempt with overstruck coins.

http://gxseries.com/..._overstruck.htm

Your attempt, is kind of what inspired me to put them all in order. I have looked through your projects when I joined here (including your ovestuck coins one), and it was sitting at the back of my mind since then. :yes: I just wanted to add some more of really good (visually) overstrike representatives to the coins I already had before putting this presentation together. This was my last addition (yet to be received):

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and I got a little too excited about this, so I couldn't wait anymore and put it all up... Thank you for sharing your projects with us, they can be inspiring as you can see. :yes:

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Here's my attempt with overstruck coins.

 

http://gxseries.com/..._overstruck.htm

 

Nicely presented information. Thanks for sharing it.

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I wish I could get my hands on this one:

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Someone was asking to evaluate this coin on a Russian forum. Unfortunately it's out of my reach in Russia. I am missing this type (overstrike from 2k to 4k). It's an ugly overstrike thought. If anyone sees one like this for sale anywhere, let me know. ;)

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4 Kopecks of Paul I recoined back into Catherine II 2 Kopecks coins by Paul I

 

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Could you post better pictures of this one, please? I am not sure about the date and the mint.

I wish you a happy new year with -of course- many, many coinzzzzz. Sigi :yes:

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Could you post better pictures of this one, please? I am not sure about the date and the mint.

I wish you a happy new year with -of course- many, many coinzzzzz. Sigi :yes:

 

As I pointed out to Eugene earlier, the letters should be to the sides of the horse not under the horse. Interestingly M that I can see here looks a lot like M on that altered TM coin.

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Could you post better pictures of this one, please? I am not sure about the date and the mint.

I wish you a happy new year with -of course- many, many coinzzzzz. Sigi :yes:

http://omnicoin.com/coin/1014513 the description reads: 1788 2 Kopeks MM Edge Inscription Paul I recoining... This coin is from my old collection, and is still packed away after we moved. I hope go get these coins out early this year when I have time. i'll make better pictures then and will examine it again.

As I pointed out to Eugene earlier, the letters should be to the sides of the horse not under the horse. Interestingly M that I can see here looks a lot like M on that altered TM coin.

Is it good or bad for this coin? TM-s are very rare as you know and I would be interested to learn how significant this information to this coin...

 

Happy New Year to ALL!!! :)

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Eugene, if the date is 1788 (I can't tell from the pictures) it cannot be MM. The 1788MM 2 kopeks had the MMs placed at the sides of the horse. As a mint mark I recognize only the 2nd letter, which is an M under the horse. In 1788 only the 1788TM 2 kopeks had the M under the horse. Paul's recoinage yielded 2 kopeks with 1793EM and no other 2 Kopek dates. If your coin is dated 1788, it is not a Paulian reoverstrike.

Your coin deserves being presented here with good pictures when you have the time.

Thank you, regards, Sigi

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The coin description and the pictures were taken by me from the original eBay listing some 4-5 years ago. When I get around it I will retake the picture myself. Sigi, I was planning to do this this year anyway, but may actually start with this coin. I played with the bits of the pictures a little and that's a result:

 

 

 

the description stated that it was MM 1788, but on the picture the year is not very clear and I see your points re: TM/MM and must agree that it's not MM. To say 100% that it is TM I can not, simply because, although, the first letter looks too similar to T, it's a lot wider than M, so they don't exactly match.

 

Alex and all, if you can point to the direction of the coin discussion that Alex mentioned I'd appreciate that. Cheers!

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