janneen Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Why were these coins so cheap? I tried to make a bid, but euopean buyers were not allowed (the seller was in europe). Link Janne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Low feedback, and without examining those coins in hand, because there are many many fakes, I would avoid them like the plague. I went to a coin fair in Donets'k Ukraine the other day and saw tonnes of fakes. The stuff that was real was worn to the point of not being collectable anymore, or had serious PVC damage from older plastic holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Why were these coins so cheap? I tried to make a bid, but euopean buyers were not allowed (the seller was in europe). Janne Where are you in Europe? The seller says "We ship worldwide, except the following former Soviet republics: Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia (problems with customs could appear)" in the listing, so unless you are in one of those 4 places, then any other European destination should have been allowed. The pictures are not good enough to be sure, but I wonder about authenticity and think you might be lucky to have had your bid refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneen Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Where are you in Europe? The seller says "We ship worldwide, except the following former Soviet republics: Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia (problems with customs could appear)" in the listing, so unless you are in one of those 4 places, then any other European destination should have been allowed. The pictures are not good enough to be sure, but I wonder about authenticity and think you might be lucky to have had your bid refused. "Ships to" didn't include europe. Also bids were refused. Maybe to ensure the buyer is not close (Luxemburg). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I would have viewed that auction as a "move along and forget I saw it" auction. Besides, the seller explicitly prohibits my Ukrainian bidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 "Ships to" didn't include europe. Also bids were refused. Maybe to ensure the buyer is not close (Luxemburg). Ah, I missed that. "Ships to: N. and S. America, Asia, Australia" - all places far away from Luxemburg. Your guess about motivation might well be correct. If the coins are fakes and the seller knows it, then it would make sense to minimize the chance that an angry buyer would come looking for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Why were these coins so cheap? I tried to make a bid, but euopean buyers were not allowed (the seller was in europe). Link Janne if coins genuine - obvious shield bidding was involved - see bid history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 if coins genuine - obvious shield bidding was involved - see bid history You mean to say "Shill" bidding. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/seller...ll-bidding.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheburgen Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 all coins for 1200$? Nice buy Except one little thing. Nobody is saying in the description of the lot that they are genuine one's. And if they are, I' m not 100% sure that I'm going to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Why ask? Those are the types that are often faked - why are many Greek silver obols so cheap?? - Too hard to tell the difference between a fake and a real one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 You mean to say "Shill" bidding. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/seller...ll-bidding.html yes, Shill bidding, thank you for correcting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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