marv Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Just got the PR for Jim's latest World-wide Coins of California auction (no buyer's premium). Some very strong prices were achieved for high-quality coins or ultra rare coins with no serious defects. Lesser quality coins generally came in at or slightly under estimate. High quality coins were at multiples of the estimates. Jim's estimates are usually conservative. (elmen@sonic.net) Some standouts (estimates in brackets): POLAND 10 ZLOTYCH 1820 Proof-like EF+ Dav. 248 (very rare): $18,000 [$3,000] Rouble 1743 MMD Dav. 1678 about EF struck over Ivan III rouble - light scratch on obverse field, otherwise lustrous: $5,250 [$750] 5 Kopeks 1763 (no MM) B-195, Bitkin-607 F-VF (Exceedingly Rare): $13,500 [$1,500] Poltina 1826 NG Julian-750 "wings up" Choice UNC (very rare): $21,000 [$2,000] Marriage Rouble 1841 NG on reverse, reeded edge Dav. 288A Choice toned EF (rare): $26,000 [$2,000] Rouble 1762 NK Dav. 1682 Choice AR-UNC: $27,000 [$10,000] Poltina 1842 MW Julian-780 Beautifully toned, proof-like UNC: $13,000 [$1,000] Marv Finnley (no, I didn't get any of these!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Just got the PR for Jim's latest World-wide Coins of California auction (no buyer's premium). : Thanks Marv. Yes, even the scarce (but not very rare) copper came in lower than I expected. I was able to buy pieces in both the Elmen and Soensteby (Hoiland) sales that have been long missing from my collection (1761MM 5K, 1768MM 5K, 1794AM Paul Overstrike 5K etc). This is likely a function of the current economy. While it certainly represents a buying opportunity compared to levels a year ago, it remains to be seen whether these prices will ultimately have been bargains or if they have further to go. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Strangely enough I was also able to get a few copper coins this time - 1734 super nice denga, 1762 2 kopeks with "N", 1802 EM 5 kopeks with "skinny" eagle, and last but not least - 1766 Siberia 5 kopeks with lettered edge! Will the prices for these go down more? Well, I am still pretty happy (for now:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Strangely enough I was also able to get a few copper coins this time - 1734 super nice denga, 1762 2 kopeks with "N", 1802 EM 5 kopeks with "skinny" eagle, and last but not least - 1766 Siberia 5 kopeks with lettered edge! Will the prices for these go down more? Well, I am still pretty happy (for now:). Received my coins today. I did not win 1762 2 kopeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Snyder Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Received my coins today. I did not win 1762 2 kopeks What did Lot 714, the off-center 20 kopeks, sell for? Thank you, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 What did Lot 714, the off-center 20 kopeks, sell for? Thank you, Bill $375 [$150] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Received my coins today. I did not win 1762 2 kopeks How come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Snyder Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 $375 [$150] Thanks Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 How come? I was giving my bids over the phone, so probably messed up an amount somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I was giving my bids over the phone, so probably messed up an amount somehow. How mach 1762 2k sold for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 $420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 $420 All my bids were over the phone too. We'll see what arrives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennysky Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Good to know about 2 Kopeks 1762 with inverted N, since I have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 $420 Some body buy more then for reasonable, I would say cheap price if coin in VF or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilio Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 5 Kopeks 1763 (no MM) B-195, Bitkin-607 F-VF (Exceedingly Rare): $13,500 [$1,500] That piece doesn't look good for me - GM specimen (also as one in my collection) look different in deails. What do You think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 That piece doesn't look good for me -GM specimen (also as one in my collection) look different in deails. What do You think ? I have images of 6 of these (including Elmen). I'll check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Here are the images of the coin from Elmen's auction" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altyn Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Is there no web-based on-line information about Elmen's auctions? Do you guys get your info my mail and then bid by phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Is there no web-based on-line information about Elmen's auctions? No Do you guys get your info my mail and then bid by phone? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I have images of 6 of these (including Elmen). I'll check. OK. At a first pass I'd say 3 different types TYPE I Grand Duke TYPE II GELOS JULY 2004 GELOS NOV 2004 ELMEN NOV 2008 TYPE III AALBORG MAY 2007 (ex Gorny 27) POSSIBLE FAKE GELOS JAN 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 All my bids were over the phone too. We'll see what arrives All coins arrived safely (as expected). Igor had me worried for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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