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Thanks Everybody!

Igor, the medal may very well be 65mm, I did not take an accurate measurement. I've looked at various auction records, and found several instances of the smaller medal, none of the larger. Thank you for the information!

I would appreciate some help with these 2 medals. They appear to be similar but have some differences. The first is Diakov 380.2. It is smaller, about 40mm, and is attributed to Denon D. and Andrieu F. (both names are on the obverse side).

The second medal is larger, about 60mm, and is inscribed only by Andrieu F. The portrait is also significantly different. I cannot find a reference to this one. Is it in Diakov?

Did someone here get this particular coin??? Looks impressive in this condition and this is not a common variety.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-kopecks-1810-EM-NM-Extra-rare-condition-UNC-Beautiful-RARE-coin-/281462215312?nma=true&si=daG8O16p%252BPu%252B45seD4UZzFbHHtM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

That's an impressive sale! I would have expected to see a lot of red for such a price. Why isn't this a common variety? Looks like the most common to me.

This is the original host coin if anyone is interested: http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/Silesia-Liegnitz-Brieg_1657-EW_thaler_Dav-7731

So it's not a girl after all, but presumably Ludovicus. If I were a Russian buyer, I would be careful with this coin. Having boys on once mind, might be considered propaganda to minors these days.

Very good! Congrats!!!

Trying to figure out how to use Omnicoin. And, showing off at the same time:-)

As for omnicoin you may want to upload separate images for the two sides, instead of this combined picture.

 

Who know, it may possibly be made from the original 1764 dies!

 

They already found overdates on denga's and 1 kopeck: http://coins.su/forum/index.php?showtopic=143117&p=1541265

I doubt that a 1764 die would have been lying around til 1783, but it is interesting that 1764 dies were in use at the mint. In a recent discussion on that forum there was an opinion that there were no real 1764 coins. The overdates suggest that such coins may have existed, and perhaps still do.

 

From the same series.

Obverse: SCHWARZENBERG. Bust left surrounded by a closed wreath, signed LOOS.

Rev: Coat of Arms. The Schwarzenberg family motto, which is missing on this medal, is NIL NISI RECTUM = Nothing But Right. 1815 28mm Blackened Iron.

Obverse: GNEISENAU. Bust left surrounded by a closed wreath, signed LOOS.

Reverse: Coat of Arms FORTITER FIDELITER FELICITER. (Bravely, Faithfully and Cheerfully.) on the ribbon, COLBERG on the centre of the Shield. 1815 28mm Blackened Iron.

Perhaps struck from 'the spoils of war' cannons?

 

Picked up a silver Barclay and and iron York:

Dang it! Couple of coins that I wanted sold pretty cheap. I should have bet.

1. Okay, although I have never heard of the copyright police coming down on a picture or a page shared from any publication for research. Your pub so no problem here.

 

2. I already expressed my thanks without giving a thought about info not being legitimate.

 

3. Now, you imply you might have lied about it, I don't know why you would, unless making up things on the forum is just fun for you.

 

4. Out.

Please respect other forum members, you were provided disappointing yet accurate information.

Strange that a Novodel would have such a weak strike, I guess anything is possible.

I hear Georgia is a fantastic country to visit.

It certainly is!

Most references list 2 varieties: Small 'им', and large 'ИМ'. I have not seen any such variety.

I get somewhat obsessive with re-arranging my coins when I get a chance, it's better for it to stay in the box.

I'm beginning to think that there hasn't been a year without an overdate.

Someone has already gone through all the trouble of slabbing it, why waste all that work?

Got a few more coins:

I got this coin from our friend Rarenum. Its a 1783 KM Polushka, the first year of issue of this type by the Kolyvan Mint. If you take a look at the below picture, you may notice faint traces of letters П О around the horses rear. You probably already guessed, that these are actually traces of the inscription 'Полушка' that remained on the die. This die was originally made for the 1766 style Siberian polushka (probably in 1781), and then was re-engraved with the new design of the standard type polushka in 1783. Pretty neat in my opinion!

GX, which one you are talking about? EM-FX or EM-IK?

This one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380961837981 (Unc Cu 5 kop 1916)

Large crown 1741 1/4 kop - http://www.ebay.com/itm/390896752798

I actually found the links! Should re-read myself, as it has been a while. Russian only, sorry:

http://www.staraya-moneta.ru/forum/f%D0%BErum5/t%D0%BEpic23673/

http://www.staraya-moneta.ru/forum/messages/forum36/topic22754/message193385/?sphrase_id=545627#message193385

I could be wrong, but a while back I read somewhere that the Russians were using the Theodosia

mint and the supplies they found there to strike the initial silver coins. I believe they also ran into problem procuring coal fro the mint.

I also do not believe that the Tatars used the 16 rouble's to a pud standard. There was an thread on Staraya Moneta that went into some detail about that.

In fact, for the Kyrmis coins there were 2 standards. There are Kyrmis coins with the ornate edge (leafs, sort of like Polish coins), they weigh something like 45 grams. Like this one that I have weighs 43.5:

And then there are heavier rope edged coins, they weigh in at abut 60 grams. Like this one that I recently got, weighs 60.5 grams:

I need to find that article, but as I recall the rope edge coins were the newer standard, and were distinguished from the old coins by the edge design.

As far as I understand the mints in Crimea were created by Shahin Girey, and were already functional prior to the annexation by Russia. These mints were setup with the Russian assistance, and utilized a lot of equipment identical to the Russian mints. I think that Potemkin tried to continue using these existing mints, but it was too expensive to get the materials to them, so they were abandoned.

Looks better than on the first photos!

Found the one with the fish at MiM 38, Lot 447. They did not provide any references, but did indicate that it was made by the Kaslinsky factory.