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2 200+ year old monster coins, which you still can see the insane lusters. But yes, there is a bit of corrosion there, but still... the red luster still suprises me... The grading would be fairly difficult, I guess. The reverse of the 1793 is sadly toned and corroded and probably worned on just that side only, but still, two fairly difficult coins to get hold of. And yes... if you noticed carefully... they are the rare overstriked coins of 1762 and 1796 10 kopeks coins!!!!!!!! I will post more pictures of them later.

What?! Yes, that's definately thicker than a normal penny. If you noticed the end of the date 2000, it seems that the die has cracked pretty bad and hence you can see the extra metal trace there. Really interesting...

Something that you dont' see very often, Russian overdate coins are pretty hard to find, but who knows what this coin can be. It can be an overstrike as well, as the details are pretty wierd And here are the extra details... including the overdate if you could not see it I guess you can see the crown and the left plant crest on the reverse side, which I originally thought it was some overstrike, but, I have never heard of overstriked Paul I's coins...

Cracked? o_O That's new... I mean that rarely happens, unless the post office decided to screw it up. If I buy a mint set, I usually get it from the dealers...

Wow, I tried to read it, but I found hebrew numerals far too complex to my likings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_numerals I only figured out a 30 and a 4 in the left side, but not anything more... how knows if that's referred to a hebrew calender date...

Wow, that's a nice writeup. Never knew anything about ancient coins. Btw, lol @ stujoe's avatar.

OMG wow, that edge is fasinating.

*ouch*

LOL both of them are good, I mean "horrible" designs. I just didn't like the Macedonian design, as it's too flat in some sense, or more like, too "tight", which gives you no room to see the proper design. What's worse is that the serial number is relatively similar to the color of the background, which makes it really hard to see what stands out.

Oh no. Hehehe. Yes, the miniature ballet coins are quite nice, but they are a) too expensive hard to find c) harder to find when you want it in a proper gift case + certificate. I think I have a 14k gold miniture 8mm 10 ruble 1899 coin somewhere... (obviously a copy)

Less than 1/3 of the price? O_O But the shipping would have killed!!!

Good point, but I guess Franklin mint has been pretty desperate somewhat. I mean, just type in Franklin mint at the eBay site, and you will be awed that Franklin mint has even went to the extent of making chess boards, which may seem odd. But yea, that is assuming that the sellers aren't lying...

Ah, that is certainly very interesting. It is true that coins were overstriked to reflect the value changes. A strong evidence that I have right now is that it seems like during the early Anna period (1730s), coins of her period overstriked coins of Peter's coinage, which means Peter's 1 kopek coins were overstriked to dengas or 1/2 kopeks. So far, those 3 Anna coins that I have are my earliest overstriked coins that I have. I have no idea if there are any earlier overstriking examples, but I am quite sure countries such as France and Austria most certainly could have done it a lot earlier than Russia. I have heard rumors that there is a possiblity of Roman coins that overstriked over some other coins, but I have so far have no evidence of that.

Something interesting I came across: I *was* almost tempted to get them but you know, these are copy coins, but it looks pretty real. 12 rubles Platinum (miniature) 1913 Romanov 300th Anniversary 1924 Worker Ruble

OH Christian, you must know how upset I was when I was in Germany while I was still a kid. As you know, I went there when there was still marks and pfennigs. And obviously, I tried to collect all the possible 2 marks and 5 marks commemorative coins... little to know that there was at least 6 of them in total I think, and you know, that's fairly a bit of money there. And the funniest thing I remembered was that, I saw a coinshop in Berlin (I think!!!) and saw all the various German coins, that was definately older than 1950s, and I was wondering... why can I not find that 10 mark coins anywhere... And that was the time when I didn't understand that proof coins meant, nor what collectors' coins meant. But yes, if you removed the gold, trial and other "expensive" coins, a Republic German coin collection is perfectly possible.

Proof set of 2x 1 ruble coins in a red case commemorating the Borodin Battle between Napoleon's army and Russia's. Dimension of the case: 19.3 x 5.6 x 0.7cm 07.09.1987 - Leningrad Mass: 12.8g Diameter: 31.0mm Thickness: 2.3mm Total of each coin: 4,000,000 (total) 220,000 (special)

Commemoration of the 70th anniversary of the Great October Socialist RevolutionThis is part of the Government issued proof sets available. While it may seem pretty easy to find one, this may not necessary be true. Minted all on the same date, 20.10.1987 by the Leningrad Mint New Page 1Denomination Mass (g) Diameter (mm) Thickness (mm) Rim Total Special 1 ruble 12.8 31.0 2.3 written one ruble twice 4,000,000 200,000 3 rubles 14.35 33.0 2.3 written three ruble twice 2,500,000 200,000 5 rubles 30.0 39.0 2.3 written five ruble twice 1,500,000 200,000

I just typed out a list of major mints that used to mint Russian coins and related so forth. Reference used is Uzedenikov. 1. Moscow Mints - Red - struck most of the gold, silver and copper coins from 1701-1737 - Kadashevsky - Struck copper coins from 1699-1727 - Naberezhny copper - New - Struck silver kopeks from 1700 - 1718. Mint marks: generally MMD, for moscow mint. 2. Saint Petersburg and suburbs: - St. Petersburg - struck all denominations from 1724-1728, 1738-1798, 1806-1917. This mint has produced almost of all Russia's coins, including trial coins, such as platinum coins, trial nickel coins, and even major forgeries of the Dutch gold dutch and Turkish paras. Created dies for other mints as well. This mint had strong connections with other major international mints, such as the Paris, Strasburg, Brussels, Birmingham private mints and Osaka mints. - Sestroretsk - one of the major mints that had new technology at that time to smelt copper out from bronze cannons. It operated from approximately 1757 - 1778. In 1770-1778, there was several attempts to create "Sestroretsk" ruble coins out from raw copper from this mint. It failed horribly because such coins were too heavy and difficult to create. - Kolphino - Operated from 1810-1821. Used mintmarks of I.M ("reverse N", M) and operated for a shortwhile from 1840-1843. Mint marks: Generally CIIb, for Saint Petersburg mint. 3. Ekaterinburg - 1727-1876. The only reason why there was a mint from Ekaterninburg is because Ekaterninburg is full of natural resources and it still does up to now. In 1725, striking of copper "plates" coins, inspired by the Swedish copper plates was tried out, but it was not terribly successful. Ekaterinburg used to mint copper coins, and later supplied copper planchets for Moscow Mints. Ekaterinburg's minting technology was pretty far behind compared to both Moscow and Saint Petersburg, and this could be told from their crude strike, which still existed until the late 1820s. Mintmark for this mint is denoted by E.M. 4. Anninskoye - 1789 - 1798. Struck various copper coins and they took part in the 1796 overstriking event. Mintmark was denoted by AM. 5. Suzun - 1766 - 1847. One of the remote mints that strucked Siberian coins till 1781. It continued resuming minting coins 1830 marked coins with the mintmark "KM" and then later on with "CM" 6. Tiflis - 1804-1834. (located in Tbilisi, Georgia) Struck silver and copper coins for Georgia. 7. Tauric - Operated just a short two year, 1787-1788. Struck copper coins and possibly silver coins, but we do not know for sure. This is one of the mysterious place that coins were minted in Pheodosia. 8. Warsaw - Operated from 1816 - 1864, when Poland is still part of Russian terrority. Coins from 1834-1850 were struck with the historical dual denomination. Mintmarks were MW from 1816-1850, but they were later changed to BM for "B"arsaw Mint, as there is no "W" in Russian. 9. Helsingfors - Operated from 1863-1917, located in Helsinki. Without much saying, this mint minted gold, silver and copper coins for Finland with a complete set of their own design, except for the Nikolai II and the double headed eagle. There were some foreign mints that were involved with the Russian coinage. Paris mint: In 1861, 20, 15 and 10 kopecks coins were minted in Paris. Although they have the same mintmark as CIIb, they do not have the mintmaster initials. Some of the 1896, 1898, rubles, 1896, 1897 and 1899 50 kopecks were minted in Paris. Some of the rarer gold coins such as the 1896 25 rubles and 1902 37.5rubles-100 francs were minted there too. Paris mints marked their designs on their edge by an asterisk. Brussels Mint: It strucked the same 1897-1899 rubles, like the Paris mint, but they are noted by their marks on the edge of the coins, which is either a double asterisk, or double ticks. This mint too minted trial 1863 2 kopeks coin in nickel and copper with the mark of EM. They also minted trial nickel and copper coins of the 10 kopecks 1871 series. Stockholm mint: Strucked trial coins for Finnish trial coins in 1863. No mintmarks. Osaka mints: Strucked some of 1916 15 and 10 kopeks coins and possibly trial 1916 NICKEL coins. These could only be told by their absence of the mintmaster marks. Private mint in Birmingham - struck copper coins of all denominations from 1896-1898. There is no indictions of the differences from the Russian ones. Sadogura estate: Minted coins for Moldova and Wallachia from 1771-1774. Avesta mint: Sweds were counterfeiting Russian 5 kopek coins as copper revolutionary prices were profitable and so these were done in major scales. In 1788, a large mass of counterfeit Catherine II 5 kopeks coins were found. These are usually dated by 1764, 1778, 1787. Berlin & Hamburg mint: Germans struck steel 1, 3, 5 kopek coins for the German occupied Russian land. Hope you enjoyed reading it. I might have missed some out... so feel free to reply. P.S. There ARE a variety of mintmarks, such as MMD, MM or MD for Moscow Mint, or CIIb or CM

OMG BRILLIANT. Time for more coin "spamming".

Indeed, that is true. You can find German coins easily, but the question is, if you want to assemble a whole set, you are probably looking at more than some... I guess 200+ type of coins easily? (excluding all the common dates, etc) I mean, the only reason why Germany has so many different types of coins is only if you included all the previous German states, which makes it quite impossible to collect... :| I have seen a German coin catalogue and I just gave up collecting German coins after seeing how many there are.

P.S. German coins are almost, or if not, as hard, or if not, harder than collecting Russian coins I have a nightmare trying to assemble a decent Russian coin set >_<

A handy link here ^_^ http://www.joelscoins.com/odd.htm#katanga The Katanga cross is a scarce and unusual piece of primitive money It is large cast copper cross, about 7 inches across, that was used in parts of what is now Zaire up to the early 20th century. One would buy about 22 pounds of flour or five or six chickens. Two would buy a gun.

From the book "Russian coins" by Uzdenikov. Enjoy New Page 1Платиновые монеты / Platinium Coins Номинал / Name Время чеканки, гг. / Period Проба сплава / Alloy Масса, г / Weight g 12 рублей 1830-1845 Не очищенная платина unrefined platinum 41,41 6 рублей 1829-1845 20,71 3 рубля 1828-1845 10,35 Золотые монеты / Gold Coins Номинал Время чеканки, гг. Проба сплава Масса, г 20 рублей 1755 88 33,14 15 рублей 1897 86 2/5 12,90 15 русов 1895 86 2/5 12,90 10 рублей 1755-1763 1764-1796 1802-1805 1886-1897 1896-1911 88 88 94 2/3 86 2/5 86 2/5 16,54 13,09 12,17 12,90 8,60 15 русов 1895 86 2/5 8,60 7 рублей 50 копеек 1897 86 2/5 6,45 5 рублей 1755-1763 1764-1796 1798-1805 1817-1885 1886-1896 1897-1911 88 88 94 2/3 88 86 2/5 86 2/5 8,23 6,54 6,08 6,54 6,45 4,30 5 русов 1895 86 2/5 4,30 Двойной червонец 1701-1702 1714 1749-1751 93 94 1/10 94 2/3 6,94 6,94 6,94 Червонец 1701-1711 1712-1716 1729-1748 1749-1753 1757-1796 1796-1797 93 94 1/10 93 94 2/3 94 94 2/3 3,47 3,47 3,47 3,47 3,47 3,49 3 рубля 1869-1885 88 3,93 2 рубля 1718-1728 75 4,10 Серебряные монеты / Silver Coins Номинал Время чеканки, гг. Проба сплава Масса, г Ефимок 1798 83 1/3 31,10 Рубль 1704-1705 1707 1710 1712;1714 1718-1730 1731-1761 1762-1796 1796-1797 1798-1885 1860 1886-1915 ~84 ~84;77 ~77;72 ~58 70 77 72 83 1/3 83 1/3 72 86 2/5 ~28,00 ~28,00 ~27,50 ~28,50 28,44 25,85 24,00 29,25 20,73 24,00 20,00 Полтина, полтинник, 50 копеек 1699-1706 1707 1710 1712 1718-1729 1731-1761 1762-1796 1797 1798-1885 1860 1886-1914 ~84 ~84;77 ~77;72 ~58 ~70 77 72 83 1/3 83 1/3 72 86 2/5 ~14,00 ~14,00 ~14,00 ~14,25 14,22 12,93 12,00 14,63 10,37 12,00 10,00 Полуполтинник, полполтины, 25 копеек 1701-1705 1707 1710 1713 1726 1730 1739-1754 1755-1758 1764-1796 1797 1798-1885 1860 1886-1901 ~84 ~84;77 ~77;72 ~72 ~55;72 70 77 77 72 83 1/3 83 1/3 72 86 2/5 ~7,00 ~7,00 ~7,00 ~7,00 ~6,65 7,11 6,46 6,04 5,97 7,31 5,18 6,00 6,00 20 копеек 1760 1762 1763 1764-1793 1810-1811 1813-1860 1860-1866 1867-1917 72 72 71 2/3 72 72 83 1/3 72 48 4,80 4,72 4,80 4,77 4,80 4,15 14,08 3,60 15 копеек 1760 1762 1763 1764-1794 1860-1866 1867-1917 72 72 71 2/3 72 72 98 3,60 3,52 3,60 3,56 3,06 2,70 Гривенник, гривна, 10 копеек 1701-1706 1707;1709 1710;1713 1718-1723 1726-1727 1731-1739 1741-1745 1746-1757 1764-1796 1797 1798-1810 1810-1812 1813-1860 1860-1866 1867-1917 ~77 ~84 ~72 70 ~42 и ниже 77 72 77 72 83 1/3 83 1/3 72 83 1/3 72 48 ~2,40 ~2,40 ~2,40 2,84 2,66 2,59 2,59 2,42 2,37 2,93 2,07 2,40 2,07 2,04 1,80 Десять денег, 5 копеек 1701-1704 1713-1714 1755-1761 1762 1763 1797 1798-1801 1810-1812 1813-1860 1860-1866 1867-1915 ~77 38 77 72 71 83 1/3 83 1/3 72 83 1/2 72 48 ~1,40 2,83 1,21 1,17 1,20 1,46 1,04 1,20 1,04 1,02 0,90 Алтын, алтынник, 3 копейки 1704 1710-1712 1713-1714 1718 1727 ~77 ~72 38 38 ~42 ~0,80 ~0,80 1,70 1,70 0,80 Грош 1727 ~42;18 0,55;1,27 Копейка 1713-1714 1714 1718 1729-1730 38 не выше 12 38 ~48 ~0,60 2,18 0,57 ~0,30 Медные монеты / Copper Coins Номинал Время чеканки, гг. Масса, г Гривенник, 10 копеек 1726 1762;1796 1830-1839 40,95 51,19 45,50 5 копеек 1723-1730 1740 1757-1796 1796 1802-1810 1830-1839 1849-1867 1867-1917 1916 20,48 20,48 51,19 25,59 51,19 22,75 25,59 16,38 8,19 4 копейки 1762;1796 20,48 3 копейки 1827 1839-1848 1849-1867 1867-1916 1916 13,65 30,71 15,36 9,83 4,91 2 копейки, грош 1724;1727 1740 1757-1762 1760 1762 1763-1796 1796 1797-1810 1810-1830 1830-1839 1839-1848 1849-1867 1867-1916 1916 8,91 20,48 20,48 10,24 10,24 20,48 10,24 20,48 13,65 9,10 20,48 10,24 6,55 3,28 Копейка 1704-1712 1708;1709 1710 1713-1718 1718;1721 1724;1726 1727 1728-1729 1730;1735 1743 1755-1757 1757-1761 1762 1763-1796 1796 1797-1810 1810-1830 1830-1839 1839-1847 1849-1867 1867-1917 1916 8,35;8,19 4,83;2,97 6,55 8,19 4,10 8,19 4,10 4,10 20,48 20,48 20,48 10,24 5,12 10,24 5,12 10,24 6,83 4,55 10,24 5,12 3,28 1,64 Деньга, денежка, 1/2 копейки 1700-1701 1701-1704 1704-1712 1710 1713-1712 1718 1730-1754 1757-1760 1762 1763-1796 1796 1797-1810 1810-1828 1839-1848 1849-1867 1867-1916 6,40 5,30 4,27;4,10 3,28 4,10 2,05 8,19 5,12 2,56 5,12 2,56 5,12 3,41 5,12 2,56 1,64 Полушка, 1/4 копейки 1700-1701 1701-1704 1704-1712 1710 1713-1718 1718-1722 1727 1730-1754 1757-1796 1796 1797-1810 1839-1846 1849-1867 1867-1916 3,20 2,65 2,13;2,05 1,62 2,05 1,02 1,02 4,10 2,56 1,28 2,56 2,56 1,28 0,82 Полуполушка, 1/8 копейки 1700 1,60

oh oops, I read it as black . Sorry, I wasn't too careful. I guess you call it a planchet, but if it doesn't fit... or not exactly the same size of the penny, that, I don't know.

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