Art Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I recently purchased a bunch of notes and I don't know anything about them. I'd like to put them into Banknote. Can someone fill me in on this one and perhaps tell me where I can find the info online to do the research myself. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 That's an Austrian one. Steegen 10 Heller. Sorry I probably shouldn't have removed them so you could get the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Cannot actually tell you anything about this one ... But it is a 10 heller note from the Austrian town of Steegen, in the state of Oberösterreich - Upper Austria. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Thanks to all. How's about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I always liked the winter scene on that one. Tabbs could probably tell you a lot more of what that says than I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Altenau is a small town in the Western Harz, in the German state of Lower Saxony. Apart from that, I can once again only tell you what I see in the picture ... That note (or coupon) was issued in May 1921 and expired in November 1921. Guess that thing with the bear claws (?) is the CoA. On the left, three women called Altenauer Klatschweiber - "Old gossips from Altenau". On the right it says "Schi Heil" (skiers greeting, wishing him/her luck and success) and "Bahn frei" which means Go Ahead but also Out of the Way. The other side is a winter scenery (duh ...) with two lines that sort of rhyme: "Winter Friends, Man and Woman / Come skiing in Altenau". Well, "Schneeschuh" actually means snowshoe, so Schneeschuh-Lauf would be snow shoe run. But that is not what is depicted ... Christian (Edit: Friends, not Joy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 That's way more information than I ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 How's about some help on this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Altenau is a small town in the Western Harz, in the German state of Lower Saxony. Apart from that, I can once again only tell you what I see in the picture ... That note (or coupon) was issued in May 1921 and expired in November 1921. Guess that thing with the bear claws (?) is the CoA. On the left, three women called Altenauer Klatschweiber - "Old gossips from Altenau". On the right it says "Schi Heil" (skiers greeting, wishing him/her luck and success) and "Bahn frei" which means Go Ahead but also Out of the Way. The other side is a winter scenery (duh ...) with two lines that sort of rhyme: "Winter Joys, Man and Woman / Come skiing in Altenau". Well, "Schneeschuh" actually means snowshoe, so Schneeschuh-Lauf would be snow shoe run. But that is not what is depicted ... Christian Thank you. I used your info on my album on fotki. I gave you credit for the info. Hope that's ok. I'll do the same on Banknote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I always liked the winter scene on that one. Tabbs could probably tell you a lot more of what that says than I can. I agree. The winter scene is terrific. These notes are really neat. I like the color schemes and most of the images are pretty neat. I'm looking for a source of info for id'ing the notes. Anyone have any suggestions? I'll try the ANA Library early in the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I had a book on Notgeld, but I ended up sending it to Franz. I'll try and find the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 This was the one I had, but... it wasn't the greatest. There weren't a lot of pictures, but it really did help with identifying what the pieces were. http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?q...3gambpgWbQ0IDMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 How's about some help on this one too. That one is tougher because the text on the back (lower image) is not in standard German but a local version of Plattdeutsch (Low German) ... Ahaus is in North Rhine Westphalia, Germany, near the Dutch city of Enschede. Hermann Landois studied theology but was also a scientist, and founded the zoo in Münster as well as a Cats Haters Club. That motto below the monument says something like: A long pipe full of Oldenkott (a tobacco brand then made in Ahaus) is more than a thousand years of honor and fame. Aoltbeer (some kind of beer) in the pot, that is and stays the real thing. And "De Smöker" ... again, Low German. Guess you can guess what it means. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Thank you. I used your info on my album on fotki. Fine, just note that "Winterfreunde" is "winter friends". I must have overlooked the N first. And of course I don't want people to say "Ha, that idiot has no clue about German!" (By the way, when I write about Altenau being in Lower Saxony, etc., that refers to where these places are now. At the time when those notes were issued, they may have been Prussian or whatever ...) Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Fine, just note that "Winterfreunde" is "winter friends". I must have overlooked the N first. And of course I don't want people to say "Ha, that idiot has no clue about German!" (By the way, when I write about Altenau being in Lower Saxony, etc., that refers to where these places are now. At the time when those notes were issued, they may have been Prussian or whatever ...) Christian Thank you. The Winter Friends has been changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trantor_3 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 That one is tougher because the text on the back (lower image) is not in standard German but a local version of Plattdeutsch (Low German) ... Which comes rather close to several dialects in Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Indeed. Now Frisian is a pretty different story, hehe. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trantor_3 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Well. go all north then to Ost-Friesland and hang out for a couple of years there Oh, and one note: Frisian is not a dialect, but an official language. In fact, it's the oldest Germanic language still being used. It's the second official language here in the netherlands and all official documents in Friesland, the province where I live are bilingual, just as place name signs etc.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarotta Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 That one is tougher because the text on the back (lower image) is not in standard German but a local version of Plattdeutsch (Low German) ... Art, I like languages, and I had about eight years of German in school, from the 7th grade through college -- in fact, my first class before the 7th grade was at a college -- but I find Notgeld a bit of a challenge. If you are going in for these in a big way, you might want to learn some German, and get a dictionary and grammar. Even a class in conversational German for tourists would be helpful. Never having been in Germany, however, I would not have understood "Bahn frei!" unless it was explained. I would have guessed it was for a free railroad pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 That one is tougher because the text on the back (lower image) is not in standard German but a local version of Plattdeutsch (Low German) ... Art, I like languages, and I had about eight years of German in school, from the 7th grade through college -- in fact, my first class before the 7th grade was at a college -- but I find Notgeld a bit of a challenge. If you are going in for these in a big way, you might want to learn some German, and get a dictionary and grammar. Even a class in conversational German for tourists would be helpful. Never having been in Germany, however, I would not have understood "Bahn frei!" unless it was explained. I would have guessed it was for a free railroad pass. I've tried using a few online translators on some of the text but haven't had much success. A German translation dictionary is a good idea. I think I can borrow one from the local library. I'm also going to contact the ANA Library folks and get a few good books on Notgeld. There's one by Cotter - I think that's supposed to be one of the most complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I ordered the Coffer book on Notgeld from the ANA Library. I'll let you all know how much hlep it is when it arrives. (I do love the ANA Library. Their new website search and print book info section is excellent.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Here's the link to an interesting article about NotGeld by Coffer. A longish read but worth it if you have any interest at all. Courtney Coffing Notgeld Article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Here's another note that I could use some help with. I can find a city called Koln when I search on google, but nothing named Roln. I'm guessing I'm just not reading the script properly. Any help, please? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trantor_3 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 I bet that's a "K", Art. Check the seal at the obverse, what's the word in the bottom of the seal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 I bet that's a "K", Art. It sure is. And Köln is the fourth biggest city in Germany (pop. almost a million), hehe. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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