RW Julian Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 The seller of the following 1913 commemorative rouble has two other Russian fakes for sale and it is likely that this piece is also bad: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=200184596844 RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 This is most puzzling to me. This is a fairly common coin, why bother paying all this money to a seller with rating of 7, from China! Even without looking at the item I would estimate my odds of receiving anything as somewhat meager. I've been ebaying since 2001. I remember people were not eager to buy even from local sellers with low ratings - especially when their merchandise looked to good to be true. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 The seller of the following 1913 commemorative rouble has two other Russian fakes for saleand it is likely that this piece is also bad: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=200184596844 RWJ I have heard that there are fakes of this coin out there, but I never saw one except for the silver-plated copper coin which was offered in a recent UBS auction (it didn't sell, BTW). Perhaps this is a genuine coin, but there are certainly better ones for this kind of money -- and $25 shipping charges is a lot! It looks like a circulated coin which was soaked overnight in some harsh agent and then scrubbed with a Brillo pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I have heard that there are fakes of this coin out there, but I never saw one except for the silver-plated copper coin which was offered in a recent UBS auction (it didn't sell, BTW). Perhaps this is a genuine coin, but there are certainly better ones for this kind of money -- and $25 shipping charges is a lot! It looks like a circulated coin which was soaked overnight in some harsh agent and then scrubbed with a Brillo pad. Even if this coin is genuine, it's still an ugly example of a common coin which can easily be found in XF or better. I agree with alexbq2. Even if the coin is genuine (which I doubt), there seems to be little reason to buy over the net from a relatively poorly known source in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 If it is a fake, I see it as a test to see what people would bid even for common coins - even in China, 1 yuan coins are counterfeited which is a mere 12 US cents. Anything else above that is extremely profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 If it is a fake, I see it as a test to see what people would bid even for common coins - even in China, 1 yuan coins are counterfeited which is a mere 12 US cents. Anything else above that is extremely profitable. Sold for $70. Very respectable! Funny part is that the seller entered this information: "Exact Year: 1749 " I guess he usually sells the 1749 fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 my favorite part is the description of the coin and how much you need it "It is extremely rare to have the high degree collects and keep the worth a work! The opportunity that do not miss the winning it" huh?? i think your translation software is broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 ebay #230204860612 listing is worth checking out for entertainment value alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koreasangeun Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 100% FAKE because i know who will selling FAKE in EBAY from China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 ebay #230204860612 listing is worth checking out for entertainment value alone. This one looks a lot like the 1913 silver-plated commem that was offered in a recent UBS auction. It even had decent-looking edge lettering! I suppose the piece might have historical (as well as hysterical ) interest, if it was indeed a contemporary fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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