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7,5 Roubles - fake or not?


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I bought lately one 7,5 Roubles gold coin. Now I am doubting, is it fake or not.

It has a wide rim (on edge) on obverse, all the other 7,5 Roubles I have seen have

tighter rim. I made the picture comparing two coins; this one under

question is on the right side.

7,5.jpg

 

Colour looks OK, text on edge also.

What do You think?

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I bought lately one 7,5 Roubles gold coin. Now I am doubting, is it fake or not.

It has a wide rim (on edge) on obverse, all the other 7,5 Roubles I have seen have

tighter rim. I made the picture comparing two coins; this one under

question is on the right side.

 

Colour looks OK, text on edge also.

What do You think?

There are two different obverse die varieties of the 7-1/2 rouble coin. They are listed in the Kazakov reference. Unfortunately, I' m not at home right now, but I'll try to post scans of the different varieties later today or tomorrow.

 

If the weight is OK, it is probably genuine. :ninja:

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There are two different obverse die varieties of the 7-1/2 rouble coin. They are listed in the Kazakov reference. Unfortunately, I' m not at home right now, but I'll try to post scans of the different varieties later today or tomorrow.

I would really appreciate that! I dont have Kazakov`s catalogue, Bitkin does not show it.

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I bought lately one 7,5 Roubles gold coin. Now I am doubting, is it fake or not.

It has a wide rim (on edge) on obverse, all the other 7,5 Roubles I have seen have

tighter rim. I made the picture comparing two coins; this one under

question is on the right side.

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Colour looks OK, text on edge also.

What do You think?

 

There are varieties in 15 and 7 1/2 rubles with narrow and wide rim. While I prefer to see reverse side, edge, and weight of the coin in question before answering about authenticity, looking at obverse I do not see anything that wrong. Denticles around the perimeter of the rim may somewhat differ.

 

WCO

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I would really appreciate that! I dont have Kazakov`s catalogue, Bitkin does not show it.

Here are the two obverse variety images from the reference work by Vladimir Vassilyevich Kazakov:

«Монеты Царствования Императора Николая II», published in Moscow, 2004:

 

Kazakov_7.5_Roubles_1897_A1A2.jpg

 

And here is the complete reference table for this type:

 

Kazakov_7.5_Roubles_1897.jpg

 

The other varieties are edge varieties -- mostly missing dot between "AG", i.e.: (А·Г) or (А Г) or else part of the right ")" missing. To me, these are errors and not varieties, though.

 

Congratulations! :ninja: Looks like you have a type A2 which is scarce! ;)

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WCO, just another off topic question, does there happen to be any kind of thick rim version of silver kopeks like this one:

 

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Hm didn't think it's 100 years old. :ninja:

 

I used to find some 20 kopecks of different dates with wide rim, just like this 1907 coin, but do not know if such varieties are listed in any catalogues.

 

WCO

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WCO, just another off topic question, does there happen to be any kind of thick rim version of silver kopeks like this one:

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Hm didn't think it's 100 years old. :ninja:

Kazakov lists only one variety for this year, but it looks quite similar to your coin. The rim for 1908 20 k. does look a bit thinner, though. 1906 looks thicker, similar to 1907.

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Hi Bobh, do you know where can I buy the "reference work by Vladimir Vassilyevich Kazakov:«Монеты Царствования Императора Николая II», published in Moscow, 2004" in USA? I try to search it on Amazon but no luck at all. I am looking forward your reply. Thanks

 

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Hi Bobh, do you know where can I buy the "reference work by Vladimir Vassilyevich Kazakov:«Монеты Царствования Императора Николая II», published in Moscow, 2004" in USA? I try to search it on Amazon but no luck at all. I am looking forward your reply. Thanks

 

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I bought mine on eBay from the seller "valeriyavaleriya71". It was privately published, I believe -- only 1,000 copies were printed, so it may be hard to find (and that's why you won't find it on Amazon). I recently saw one offered for sale on the Molotok site (http://www.molotok.ru), so if you are in Russia, that might be a better place to look.

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