gxseries Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Obtained this for my collection at a very reasonable if not a bargain price I'm not complaining about the hole as it's scarce in any condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 nice catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 i always wondering why the whole is the wrong place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 i always wondering why the whole is the wrong place Are you saying that you see many coins where the hole is at the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 did i mention many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 You didn't, but you said "always" wondering, which implied you encounter them often. I figured this was just a bit of linguistic confusion, so I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 do you like the coin TS showed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I guess my biggest gripe about this coin wouldn't be the hole but rather how badly worn the obverse is. I like any bargain. As such, it sounds like gxseries scored a coup with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Obtained this for my collection at a very reasonable if not a bargain price I'm not complaining about the hole as it's scarce in any condition. Congrats! Guess who was the underbidder on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Good rivals, Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic gold Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 It is true, that in the first half of the 18th century many silver coins of a smaller nominal value were perforated. For some reason the most commonly perforated coins were the grivenniks. The use of coins in this way (binding them together) starts right away from the first silver coins of Peter I and continue to the reign of Anna, but after the 1740s coins were less frequently perforated. It could be said, that the perforation has a certain historic meaning or at least explanation: from altyns to polupoltinniks it belongs to them as they have, according to V. Rzaev, served as decorations following a tradition known from the Volga territories a long time. Still, museums and writers of books and catalogues try to picture a coin without a hole whenever it is possible. I quite agree with this, in my opinion just because the early 18th cent silver has this defect more often than coins from other periods it still does not make a coin with a hole more acceptable. In my collection there is not one coin with perforation (or loop, or remains of such). For me, a hole ruins a coin, I can´t avoid seeing it and I will not consider such a coin worth collecting even if it otherwise had survived in EF condition. Yes, if only perforated specimens are available of a certain rare coin, I`d prefer having a hole in my collection than a coin with a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Yes, if only perforated specimens are available of a certain rare coin, I`d prefer having a hole in my collection than a coin with a hole. I don't like holed coins either and I've never had any in my collection. I a way I envy our friend gxseries: He has found a very rare coin at a bargain price AND HE IS HAPPY with what he's got That's what our hobby is about. ....de gustibus non est disputandum.... Sigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 ....de gustibus non est disputandum.... or ...There is No Accounting for Tastes... but I also like the coin (I was just hoping for a better bargain ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Honestly I believe without the hole, a similar coin would have cost 50-100x times more and it's not a common coin either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 i always wondering why the whole is the wrong place Coins used for decoration and not all the time as central detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperialcoins Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 what coins put in collection it is choise privet for each person. as for me i prefer unc coins of course without holes. but people who love collect coins in bad condition should realise that sell it will very heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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