bobh Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Link to results: http://www.kuenker.de/onlineAuctionOrder.a...amp;lager=00056 Prices look very strong ... over €3,000 for a beard token ... 1908 poltina for €2,300 (much nicer one than the G&M coin I won last spring). No sign of a recession here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Only won one lot (53 wire kopecks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I was there (actually, I am still here). Strong auction, no doubt. Let´s see what the other auctions will show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 looks like whoever bidded were fulfiling their collection and did not care about high prices won - too many pieces sold for crazy prices, which could have been bought somewhere else 2-3 times cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Citizen Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 .... too many pieces sold for crazy prices, which could have been bought somewhere else 2-3 times cheaper Where ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I agree the prices are high for rare or high quality coins. But look at 19 century commemorative roubles, they are 1.5-2x cheaper than year ago. Same is true for NON high quality Peter's roubles or Ivan's rouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Where ? The prices from the recent WAG sale of Russian coins seem to be much lower than from the Künker sale. Perhaps this is because of Künker's greater reputation concerning Russian coins? But even at Künker there were moderate prices for many items, for example this nice 1831 rouble for only €450 (plus 15% buyer's premium and VAT, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I just found out this one from WAG is mine.... obviously I didnt not bid on it due to grade, but rather, you just dont see these too often...at all. http://sixbid.com/nav.php?lot=3764&p=viewlot&sid=173 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I just found out this one from WAG is mine....obviously I didnt not bid on it due to grade, but rather, you just dont see these too often...at all. http://sixbid.com/nav.php?lot=3764&p=viewlot&sid=173 Congratulations, squirrel ... Nice to know that it has finally found a home where I'm sure it is appreciated for its inner values, not just beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Congratulations, squirrel ... Nice to know that it has finally found a home where I'm sure it is appreciated for its inner values, not just beauty! Thanks Bob. Im going for an "ugly poltina" type series. Still missing quite a few! The pretty ones are nice, but out of my budget limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Citizen Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 The prices from the recent WAG sale of Russian coins seem to be much lower than from the Künker sale. Perhaps this is because of Künker's greater reputation concerning Russian coins? But even at Künker there were moderate prices for many items, for example this nice 1831 rouble for only €450 (plus 15% buyer's premium and VAT, of course). Well, not really cheap if you think about it. Its condition is, probably, AU in US standards (if the scratches are not that bad). So, the price in USD (including premium) is about $750. Is it cheap for the easiest year of the series? I do not think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 craziness of having in your own collection a silver ruble with massonic eagle came to Russian numismatic recent years; these pieces never been so popular in the past and had no preferences against others according my memo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I just found out this one from WAG is mine....obviously I didnt not bid on it due to grade, but rather, you just dont see these too often...at all. http://sixbid.com/nav.php?lot=3764&p=viewlot&sid=173 I'll match you on the ugly poltina front! 1810 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=956609 Also: 1821 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=970398 1824 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=957786 1825 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=957691 1826 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=956610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Citizen Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 craziness of having in your own collection a silver ruble with massonic eagle came to Russian numismatic recent years;these pieces never been so popular in the past and had no preferences against others according my memo One should admit, though, that this is an open '2' variety but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well, not really cheap if you think about it. Its condition is, probably, AU in US standards (if the scratches are not that bad).So, the price in USD (including premium) is about $750. Is it cheap for the easiest year of the series? I do not think so. Did I say "cheap"? I thought I said "moderate"... There are no "cheap" Russian coins to buy these days unless they are in very bad condition. Although I didn't see this coin in person, I think you are right about the grade of AU -- however, the marks on the obverse don't look like scratches to me, but striations in the metal. They all go more or less in the same direction. There are some little marks on the reverse as well as a minor rim defect at 6 o'clock (probably due to manufacturing process). Anyway, price is much less than what people were paying for more common roubles at the Hess-Divo auction in June, 2006 (Japanese collector selling a lot of Russian silver coins). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Citizen Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 ...There are no "cheap" Russian coins to buy these days unless they are in very bad condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I'll match you on the ugly poltina front! 1810 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=956609 Also: 1821 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=970398 1824 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=957786 1825 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=957691 1826 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=956610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'll match you on the ugly poltina front! 1810 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=956609 Also: 1821 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=970398 1824 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=957786 1825 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=957691 1826 - http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=956610 Ill see your 1810 and raise.... Poltina Poker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Ill see your 1810 and raise.... Poltina Poker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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