LostDutchman Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 hey gang! our friend dustin sent me this piece to take a look at... definitely a weird one... It looks to me like it has been through some sort of tumbler maybe an industrial washer... anyone have any other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amac44 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 hey gang! our friend dustin sent me this piece to take a look at... definitely a weird one... It looks to me like it has been through some sort of tumbler maybe an industrial washer... anyone have any other ideas? Nice capped die ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 i don't think so... capped dies almost always only effect one side of the coin... the details appear to have been beat down... notice all the little ticks and hits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I don't think it was a tumbler unless it was rough grit used, it doesn't appear polished (the purpose of a tumbler) at all. What about sand blasted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I don't think it was a tumbler unless it was rough grit used, it doesn't appear polished (the purpose of a tumbler) at all. What about sand blasted? that's a possibility... a sand blaster would make it look polished as well tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Not as much, we use sandblasting to give metal a brushed look in the bronze casting class. You can polish with it, but you need a special type of tumbled sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 that makes sense.... whatever this coin is im afraid its post mint damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkykile Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Hey Dustin! Nice find. Post mint damage or not it is still a keeper. corky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 thanks guys its sure weird eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreasureGirl Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Is there a reason the letters are overlapping the rim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Is there a reason the letters are overlapping the rim? im wondering the same thing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 im wondering the same thing ... Sometimes when a coin, especially pennies are struck it forms a wave in the metal that rises around the letters on the outside rim. This is actually quite normal and quite common, but whatever happened to this coin has somehow magnified that affect. It's basically the metal having been pushed by whatever force was placed on the coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 if it was smashed/ sand blasted wouldnt the rim of the pennie be worn off or smashed to the side? this still has the rim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 if it was smashed/ sand blasted wouldnt the rim of the pennie be worn off or smashed to the side? this still has the rim... Smashed, yes....Sandblasted, no. Sandblasting is an interesting tool, it's very abrasive but not very destructive. Think of it as millions of little stones being tossed very fast at the coin. It will push the metal around, but not really dent it up or bend it or anything like that. It's not gentle, but it's not super harsh on metal either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Smashed, yes....Sandblasted, no. Sandblasting is an interesting tool, it's very abrasive but not very destructive. Think of it as millions of little stones being tossed very fast at the coin. It will push the metal around, but not really dent it up or bend it or anything like that. It's not gentle, but it's not super harsh on metal either. i know a old feller with a sand blaster i might have to do an experiment hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkykile Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hi Dusting, My reference book "The Lincoln Cent Doubled Die", by John A. Wexler, has a photo of 1968 cent which shows what happens when a die is hubbed by a very worn hub. The letters of the motto actually run into the rim to be spread outward on the hub. Apparently this happened to a lot of 1968 Lincolns. However, this example does not show the cupping which your coin has. The overall mushiness of the devices cause me to think your Lincoln might have been struck with extremely worn or obstructed dies. I do not know for certain if any of these explain what happened to your Lincoln. It is just some ideas you might want to explore when you are surfing the net. corky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hi Dusting, My reference book "The Lincoln Cent Doubled Die", by John A. Wexler, has a photo of 1968 cent which shows what happens when a die is hubbed by a very worn hub. The letters of the motto actually run into the rim to be spread outward on the hub. Apparently this happened to a lot of 1968 Lincolns. However, this example does not show the cupping which your coin has. The overall mushiness of the devices cause me to think your Lincoln might have been struck with extremely worn or obstructed dies. I do not know for certain if any of these explain what happened to your Lincoln. It is just some ideas you might want to explore when you are surfing the net. corky thanks corky!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhut1000 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Nice capped die ! Mud here, First impression: brockage, broadstruck, cap, combination of all......but It appears that both sides are concave which is impossible with these errors. There is no evidence of a broadstrike, brockage, counterbrockage, cap, or partial cap error formation. The error coin should, have a reverse image and or an incuse image, generally of the reverse and be asymmetrical, except for a perfect cap. My thoughts? Someone put this coin in a collar between leather and carefully hammered it, harder in selected areas. This method would also allow for the lettering to expand over the rim. It's just a thought !!!!! I recommend to all that don't have one to get a copy of "The Error Coin Encyclopedia" by Arnold Margolis. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 My first job ever was for a plumbing company, but the owner of the company also owned a laundromat that I serviced every once in a while. I used to find cents like this in the drums of the large dryers. They had slipped through the agitators and into the outer shell of the drum, and there they would sit and get beaten to death for years until we came along and opened up the machine to find out what the clicking noise was coming from the drum, even when there were no clothes in it. We had a deal going, I got all the gold, and my boss got all the silver from the machines. You might think I wouldn't have found stuff, but I found rings, several gold chains etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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