squirrel Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Ebay item: 270232125079 Sellers name is "coinczarina" which in itself is a hoot. but feedback is zero. coin looks too nice to be true? In either case (fake or not ) "The coin is guaranteed to be authentic" but "I do not accept returns." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270232125079 Looks like a gamble - new seller 0 feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Ebay item: 270232125079 Sellers name is "coinczarina" which in itself is a hoot. but feedback is zero. coin looks too nice to be true? In either case (fake or not ) "The coin is guaranteed to be authentic" but "I do not accept returns." I'd be extremely cautious. Obverse doesn't match any of the 13 I've seen. Tip of Catherine's crown points to a different part of the legend, for example. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270232125079 Looks like a gamble - new seller 0 feedback. Is that a "C" I see stamped onto the edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Is that a "C" I see stamped onto the edge? Possibly all that remains of a rubbed-out "Made in China" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Looking a bit Potemkinish to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Ebay item: 270232125079 Sellers name is "coinczarina" which in itself is a hoot. but feedback is zero. coin looks too nice to be true? In either case (fake or not ) "The coin is guaranteed to be authentic" but "I do not accept returns." On the whole, it looks good. The bust of the Empress matches that on known genuine pieces. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Is that a "C" I see stamped onto the edge? I don't see it, but might be looking in the wrong place. Hutten-Czapski countermarked his coins with a small "C" but (at least on the examples which I have seen) the edge was not the location used for the stamping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I think bobh is looking at the anomoly on the edge, between the P of "IMP" and ".I.CAMO i cant make out what it is. perhaps it is where the edge milling started/ended and overlapped a few lines. The coin just has "not quite right" quality, but i suppose it could just be flat lighting. The sellers terms are not too comforting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hutten-Czapski countermarked his coins with a small "C" but (at least on the examples which I have seen) the edge was not the location used for the stamping. I was thinking of "C" for "COPY" ... ... on the first edge picture, turned upside-down. But if RWJ thinks it's OK, I'm sure it is, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I think bobh is looking at the anomoly on the edge, between the P of "IMP" and ".I.CAMO i cant make out what it is. perhaps it is where the edge milling started/ended and overlapped a few lines. I doubt it is a "C" counterstamp. The edge milling overlap explanation seems more likely. Here's an enlarged, cropped & brightened version of the seller's picture. The coin just has "not quite right" quality, but i suppose it could just be flat lighting. The sellers terms are not too comforting. I agree. The coin might be real, but something about it bothers me as well. Also, the terms, as you point out, are less than reassuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 The blowup does the trick! I think its silver solder, mount or eye removed? OR casting trace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 The blowup does the trick! I think its silver solder, mount or eye removed? OR casting trace? It could be either. My guess is mount removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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