KurtS Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Rim nick is at 11 o'clock The mint mark and VDB check out to be genuine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy452 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I'll give it a try MS64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneydog Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I will give it a MS-60 but the color I still say could have some PVC damage but if I seen it person it could be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtS Posted November 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Well, if we must run the full gamut of possible offenses of this coin, there's no signs of PVC damage either. I've inspected this under a 32X stereo scope and it's a very nice example, with few marks outside the 500 micron rim ding, which happened early in its history. Admittedly, it's hard to capture the colors on my camera, but high magnification reveals how the "wood-grain" alloying is beautifully toned in various colors. At 32X or 100X, there is no evidence of layered deposition that characterizes PVC damaged coins. While color is certainly subjective, in this case it's more indicative of the patina creating a "thin film interference" effect (also known as "rainbow toning"). Eventually, patina builds to the point where this phase-shift effect is negated, and the coin moves from RB to BN color. That's my quantitative analysis, and I've more than adequately documented this coin for this board, lol! I've run it past a dozen collectors, and we think it will grade 63-64RB, including a one point strike for the rim mark. Btw, this is an early die state for the 1909-S VDB with a high reverse "wire rim" that was particularly susceptible to such dings. I'll post more when the coin returns from grading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalman Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 The colors seen on this coin are completely natural for the Lincoln series ,, I agree with Kurt that there is no sign of PVC on this coin . I voted MS-63 in the Poll. Here is another that Illustrates the natural toning present on this coin. Metalman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I hate to disagree... but the colors on the 2 cents posted are completely different... its true that the early lincolns come in many different shades due to planchet mixtures... but having handled more then 50 unc S VDB's I have a pretty good idea what colors the TPG's like and what color (tho it may be original) they dont. In the case of this coin... i like the details... it looks like it has solid 62 shot 63 details... and like kurt said the pic might not be the best representation of the color... so we will see what the TPG says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyd Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 MS - 63 RB looks very much like mine (PCGS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudope Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Bare minimum MS62. Its more like an MS62/63 grade. So, on a good day, I would give an MS63. On a regular day, an MS62. But, it does have a good chance to get an MS63 because its rim is high. So having a nick there is very likely. Everything else looks good, so subtracting 1-2 points for that one nick is correct. This would bring it to MS62-MS63. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoneyeagles Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 I voted a big fat 63! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Am_The_Great_Coinholio Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 This coin looks poorly struck and the colors don't look right to me. I went with MS-60 but was more inclined towards MS-61. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhughes Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 I posted in the poll MS62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve972 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I think it is a 63. Looking forward to the results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I think it is a 63. Looking forward to the results! Since the original posts were in 2007, I doubt that we'll ever get to see the results of this one. I, like you, would really enjoying seeing what grade it was given. I'd go with MS63RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve972 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Since the original posts were in 2007, I doubt that we'll ever get to see the results of this one. I, like you, would really enjoying seeing what grade it was given. I'd go with MS63RB. Yes, I agree. Saw the date after I posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coincrazed Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 IMHO, It looks MS-64RD, Environmental damage. That strange green toning bothers me. CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethdowney27 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 MS-63 for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorblaydesjr Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 MS 63 BN. Beautiful patina and a sharp looking coin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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