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  1. Samuel Allen Daniell of 52 St. Paul's Sqr. Birmingham England where he was active between 1861/2-1873, later he relocated to the Lion Works, Edward Street, he was mainly a token maker(for pubs, guilds etc) his trades are listed as die-sinker, seal engraver, press and tool maker. So as you can see the maker of your relatives token was only active between 1861/1862-1873 at that address on the token, so we can date the manufacture of the token to that period, with the latest date being 1873, though it might have still been in use much later Here is one of his tokens produced after he moved premises in 1873 with his new address on Edward St.
  2. Great coins as always Clive & your photos are amazing
  3. Just finding one with copy/reducing lines is quite a problem but I will keep looking
  4. As our mailmen are locked-out in Canada I have not received anything for over a week!!!
  5. <p><br /> <br /> LISMORE SCHOOL MEDAL.- A view of the castle and woods at Lismore rising above the river, with distant bridge, &c. In the exergue, in minute letters, MILLS. F. Reverse.- Inscribed, ALUMNO | SCHOLÆ LISMORIENSIS | OB LITERAS | FELICITER EXCULTAS | GULIELMUS DUX DEVONIÆ | D.D. Around this is a plain ring, and outside, in upper part, SUNT HIC ETIAM SUA PRÆMIA LAUDI. Listed as RR. In Tickets & Passes by Davis & Waters. <strong class="bbc">55mm by George Mills</strong> (1793-1824) This is the only Irish medal by him, though he engraved the reverse for B. Wyon's medal of George IV.'s visit to Ireland<br /> The Latin = Graduate Of Lismore School happily honoured for literature. William Duke of Devonshire. Around: Here too virtue has its due reward.<br /> <br /> A specimen of this medal was sold, April, 1878, with the duplicate medals of the Bank of England.<br /> Thanks to Barry Woodside for some of the info Barry Woodside's Irish Tokens<br /> This is a test-strike, in a lead-based alloy, the dies were misaligned. <br /> <br /> William George Spencer Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire KG, PC (21 May 1790[1] – 18 January 1858), styled Marquess of Hartington until 1811, was a British peer, courtier and Whig politician. Known as the "Bachelor Duke". Lismore Castle & surrounding area was his Irish estate and he was the patron of the Classical School.<br /> <br /> What makes it of special interest is the Salmon weir & the fishermen depicted. Note the rocks & wooden structure with supports where the 4 men are stood.<br /> <br /> Compare this engraving of the weir(far left) circa 1840, with the close-up of the medal below circa 1820.<br /> <br /> <br /> THE HISTORY, TOPOGRAPHY AND ANTIQUITIES COUNTY AND CITY WATERFORD; By the rev. R. H. RYLAND. 1824<br /> "Under the castle there is a very extensive salmon fishery, where, during the season, great abundance of fish is taken daily and exported, packed in ice, to Liverpool and other distant places. Any fish taken in the inclosures, above the number required, are driven into a space divided off, where they may be had at a. short<br /> notice; and, in addition to this, there are two or three wooden boxes, from which they may be taken without the delay of a minute. Eight hundred fish are sometimes taken at one time"<br /> <br /> "<strong class="bbc">The bridge</strong>, which was built at the sole expense of the late Duke of Devonshire, in 1775, is one hundred feet in the span of the arch. The present Duke has erected a most convenient sessions-house and gaol, a commodious inn and offices, and contributes largely to all the charitable institutions. There are six alms-houses at Lismore founded by the first Earl of Cork, for decayed Protestant soldiers, with an annual stipend for each. There are also extensive poor schools, one for boys and another for girls, built and supported by the Duke of Devonshire, but placed under the inspection of the Hibernian School Society, who add a donation to the master and mistress. The classical school at Lismore, originally endowed by the first Lord Cork, has been much enlarged and improved by the present Duke. A new school-room has been built ; and an extensive play-ground and garden inclosed, with a ball-court, &c. have been added. The establishment is now under the management of the Rev. Mr. Stokes. The Duke of Devonshire, who occasionally visits this country, has an able representative in Colonel Curry, whose residence is the castle of Lismore"<br /> <br /> Each of the 3 fishermen has a ghillie in attendance, a custom still in use today, the river below the castle is the Blackwater and it is the 3rd ranked salmon river in the world by catch.</p>
  6. Obv: Bare head of George IV, left. GEORGIUS IV DEI GRATIA Rev: Funeral urn on rectangular plinth inscribed DIED / JUNE 26 / 1830 Above: LIVD BELOVED. DIED LAMENTED Below: . BORN 1762 . BHM# 1399, Br 25mm by ? R. Strangely no mention of the weeping willow. This would not be anything very special except for the visible copy/reducing lines on the obverse, even though it is in a very nice condition & is a rare medal. The front of George's neck just seems to blend in to the field & the hair does not look finished, I have tried but cannot find another example to compare it too & see if there was any further engraving done to the die. Another one to add to my growing collection of copy/reducing line medals from this era 1800-1830. Here is one from a previous post, with copy/reducing lines, and I was lucky enough to find another struck from the same dies after more engraving was done. Compare the foreheads, central cheek area etc. So I believe that the first Charlote was struck as a test piece, struck before the die was fully hardened, hence the pristine strike. So that is why I am keen to find another example of the George IV medal, or at least a photo of one Queen Charlotte Death Medals 1818 RRR. BHM #968 Obv. Diademed head of Queen Charlotte, right. H . M . G . M . QUEEN CHARLOTTE. Rev. BORN MAY 19 . 1744 / MARRIED / SEPR. 9 . 1761 . / DIED AT KEW / NOVR. 17 . 1818 / AFTER A VIRTUOUS / REIGN WITH HER / BELOVED KING / OF 57 YEARS AE, AE silvered 25 by ? AE RRR; AE silvered RRR. Unlisted in Brass.
  7. Why would someone selling something that expensive post such poor pics, mind even with the poor pics you can tell it is in a very poor condition. From those pics I do not think anyone could even be sure that it is the genuine article. Why no enlargements or zoom? Even people selling cheap medals for a few dollars normally show enlargements. "Excellent condition with no scratches or dents. It might have been cleaned at one time" is obviously a joke! There is no fine detail left, judging by the pics posted that is. Looked at one of his cheap coins, yes you guessed it, for that he supplies Zoom & an enlargement, & you can see what the coin is like!!! Check the pics for this item
  8. Clearly then the rarity of N. is incorrect, thanks for the info Vern.
  9. They were both sold holed(for wearing with a ribbon) and also sold sans hole. With coins(especially modern ones) a hole is not good but with these old medals it does not matter so much, especially if purchased with hole. That said if I had a choice between 2 examples of the same medal, same grade, I would pick the unholed one....unless the holed one came with its original suspension ribbon or hanger. If an old medal is holed after market it is normally easy to spot, as until modern times most people just drove a nail through them! After market nail-holed. Sold holed for use with ribbon.
  10. Obv. Peace standing emptying cornucopia onto seashore, barrel to left inscribed TO FRANCE ships in background, THEY SHALL PROSPER THAT LOVE THEE Exe. 1814 signed Kettle Rev. THE / LIBERTIES / OF EUROPE RESTD. / BY THE UNITED / EFFORTS OF ENGLAND / AND HER / AUGUST ALLIES / THE / PRELIMINARIES / OF PEACE SIGNED / MAY 30 / 1814 BHM#808 AE N. Br. N. This is AE but heavily gilded, not listed as such. Though Brown lists this as normal rarity it certainly does not surface very often, I have never seen one in such great condition before
  11. Is that capital "L" in ALso a Freudian slip
  12. Rather risque obverse to pair with the Lord's prayer Very nice Bill
  13. Nice medal Vern, as Saor Alba states it was a very significant event for Scotland & in fact England. George even donned the kilt & it symbolized a true union of the two countries and a new beginning. Shame that the two great countries seem to be drifting apart, as Great Britain(including Ireland & Wales) they dominated & helped bring about the modern scientific world. They were greater than the sum of their individual parts. Obv: Laureated head of George IV, left. GEORGE IV KING OF GREAT BRITAIN. Rev: A Scottish thistle, SCOTLAND EXULTS IN THE PRESENCE OF HER KING. BHM#1196 AE R. Br R. 26mm by ? 1822
  14. William III was Dutch & spent much of his time in the Netherlands, mind he did find time to visit his father-in-law in Ireland!!! . Anne was 37 when she became Queen, had been pregnant at least 18 times, was obese & hardly went anywhere. George I was Hanoverian(German) spoke hardly any English, ascended the English throne aged 54 & only ever visited Hanover, where on his 6th & last trip he died & was buried there. George II was like his father born in Hanover, only came to England when he was 31, when his father became King. Also visited Hanover while King. England itself was, to them both, a foreign enough land. During those times the Jacobite problem meant that no British monarch would have felt very secure visiting rebelious Scotland. George III was the first of the Hanoverian monarchs to be born in England or to speak English as his first language. He was shy & retiring by nature, deeply religious & spent hours in prayer. He loved his wife & remained faithful to her, they had many children & George became a real family man. He very seldom went anywhere even in England. So it is hardly a suprise that George IV was the first monarch to visit Scotland & Ireland since the Acts of Union. As a Sassenach please accept my sincere apologies for any offence caused by the absence of a Royal Progress by those Dutch & German kings of England any earlier I am sure if they had realized how upset you Scots were even they might have made an effort, no true English King/Queen of Britain would have been so insensitive to your feelings. Remember Edward I, he loved Scotland so visited many times but was never was made to feel very welcome. I have holidayed in Scotland many times, where I live now(Canada) I can attend Highland Games in Georgetown & in Fergus each year
  15. Thanks for that Ian Have been on holiday in Florida for the last 14 days, without my computer, so only just seen your post.
  16. Thanks for the link Arminius, very nice, if people use Google Chrome(my browser of choice) it can translate pages on the fly into whatever language they want.
  17. Oh you are such a tease, come on show us the medals
  18. The only 2 candidates I could find for C.L. are; C.L. Conrad Laufer, Counter-manufacturer at Nuremberg, 1637-1688.(My choice for now, unless you have a better candidate) & C.L. Caspar Longerich, Mint-master at Treves, 1683-1693. Would be nice if we could be sure on which of the Paparels ordered this one. Freuardent states these were banned in France, yet Paparel had his name engraved on them, which does seem strange. Looking forward to any info you can dig up Ian When Louis XIV died & Philippe became regent because the treasuries were depleted he, Paparel, along with many others, was charged with embezzlement & he was sentenced to death but this was commuted to life imprisonment & eventually he was allowed to spend the rest of his life on the island of Sainte-Marguerite in Provence with a pension of a 1000 francs. Feuardent: "All these chips without date, which we find for the Ordinary and Extraordinary War, 714 to 925 have been acquired by order of Paparel, the famous Treasurer of wars, probably in the service of considerable numbers of military personnel in charge of its accounting. There is little tokens of French manufacture in service, while the German chips abound and yet at that time, the entry of German tokens was banned in France. Their cheapness had probably committed the great servant to commit fraud with these chips, as the chips were considered benign"(please excuse the garbled translation)
  19. Feuardent 925. Brass 25mm Tresoriers Militaires des Armees. Obv.LVDOVICVS MAGNVS.REX Bust r. signed C L Rev. DAT.FRVCTVS.DAT.QVE.CORONAS. Un grenadier charge de fruits, sous les rayons solaires. Exe. ORD.DES.GVERRES.PAPAREL.TRES. He/she/it gives produce/crops/fruit/profit/enjoyment/reward; and he/she/it gives crowns/garlands/awards. A pomegranate tree laden with fruit under the Suns rays. The Sun probably represents Louis XIV(the Sun King) who is supplying the good things in life. Paparel the Treasurer-General of the Ordinaires des Guerres had these jetons made in Germany for use in France, which just happened to be illegal at that time. Quote from Guy Rowland's 2002 "The Dynastic State and the Army Under Louis XIV: Royal Service...."; "The Ordinaires des Guerres was the oldest channel for military expenditure, reaching back to the mid-fifteenth century foundations of the standing army. By the 1660's it covered all expenditure that had been thought necessary in peacetime a hundred years earlier. The efforts of the crown to overhaul the fortresses and artillery, and the rapid growt in forces in the 1620's and 1630's, relegated the Ordinaires des Guerres to lowly secondary significance as it came to be dwarfed by its precocios sibling, the Extraordinaire. Moreover the Ordinaire was in a state of great confusion troughout the seventeenth century and the accounts were, in some cases, in atrocious states of neglect dating back to the 1590's. It handled around 2 million livres per annum by the end of the century, on which some commission was taken by its Treasurers-General. Until 1669 the two Treasurers-Generals had served together as a team but hence forth they would alternate each year in office. The most significant of these men were Claude Paparel & his son and successor Francois, who between them spanned Louis XIV's personal rule & who were closely related to La Touanne Treasurer-General of the Extraordinaire Des Guerres from 1686 to 1701" This contradicts Wikipedia; "Claude François Paparel , born in 1659 and died on 18 May 1725 in Paris . He is the son of Francois Paparel, Advisor to the King, Treasurer of the extraordinary wars"
  20. Rockport is such a beautiful & historic place, my Wife & I were there in the fall on their harvestfest day, and spent some time sitting & sunning ourselves looking out over that bay.
  21. Silvered copper(only traces of the silvering remain) 26-28mm. Obv. A dolphin being crowned by a hand appearing from a cloud. A DELPHINO INCOLUMITAS Rev. Figure of Peace, holding a cornucopia, and burning implements of war. EX PACE UBERTAS Exergue WOLF LAVF. (For either Wolf Laufer I (master 1554, died 1601) or Wolfgang Lauffer/Lavfer II Nuremberg, active 1618-1660) A DELPHINO INCOLUMITAS Safety to/from the Dolphin/Dauphin (EX BELLO PAX / From war, peace) EX PACE UBERTAS / From peace, plenty. Assumed by some to depict the birth of the 18th Dauphin(Louis XIII) in 1601, it might also be for the 19th(Louis XIV) 1638.
  22. Dino-Lite digital microscope......very impressive though perhaps you should have brought the one with a built in spelling-checker, did you spot the "pure alumnium" or was that an acceptable version of aluminum/aluminium then?
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