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hiho to the rescue, she is cute.....& not a gun or crossbow in sight.
Departing from my usual "ladies in big hats" theme here's a fairly rare 1900 medal from Chur in a nicer than average bezel...
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A new one from Poland, a 1931 Langenthal:
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Rod, at the rate that Zohar is accumulating Schutzenfest medals, how long will it take before he equals your collection?
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That 1901 Wyl (engraved by Hans Frei) is now on my Must-Have list.
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Constanius, the amount of knowledge you possess and your willingness to share it always amazes me.
Beautiful medal by the way.
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I love the reverse. Wow.
On a scale of 10 that reverse is a 20. INCREDIBLE!
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Very brave words
I think - You don't see medals minted for Polish king's
True, but Poland has produced some very attractive coins.
My wife is half Polish, and she's pretty attractive too...
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hiho that is awesome!!
I love the balance and symmetry of the design.
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And another from the same page of the Richter book.
1906 Arbon (Thurgau)
Richter # 1275a
23mm silver
726 struck
Engraved by Holy Freres
This was also cast in bronze with an RRR scarcity rating. I'm satisfied with the more affordable silver example.
It even came with the original display case.
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This thread has picked up steam again!
A recent addition that I was excited to acquire...
1913 Weinfelden (Thurgau)
Richter # 1280a
25mm silver
600 struck
Engraved by Holy Freres
Welcome to the forum Peter! Sorry I forgot about Austria...
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Wow! Do you have a map of the areas that issued schooting medals? I assume it was a stronger tradition in certain regions.
All of Switzerland, parts of Germany, France and the Netherlands, and Argentina. And probably many more countries that I am unaware of.
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Actually Northeast are great to deal with, they will at least work with you on price and they do well with customer service. I have bought some very rare Scottish medals from them over the past few years.
They are very nice people and eager to please.
The Weinfelden in hand is absolutely breathtaking and I couldn't be happier with it.
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It's scary to see those kind of prices but nice at the same time...
Amen Rod.
I did buy two nice Holy Freres medals (1906 Thurgau-Arbon and 1913 Thurgau-Weinfelden) that I needed but at almost double the Richter catalog price. I offered their price -20% and they agreed to about -10%. I have wanted the Weinfelden since I first saw it in the Richter catalog.
As nice as these people are I would rather have bought these from Rod or his dad. But I cleaned them out of all their nice Holy Freres stuff long ago!
I'll post photos of the new medals here as soon as I receive them.
PS - Saor Alba, I definitely owe you one. I haven't bought a new Holy Freres medal in over a year and because of you I now have two new ones.
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I have seen a few of the gold ones, Northeastcoins had a couple recently.
Excellent website, thanks for the heads up!
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I've seen far fewer bronze medals than silver. Is there a reason for that? I assume that silver is nicer but was cheap enough to use too.
The bronze medals are usually harder to find than the silver ones, and are usually worth more.
Want a real challenge? Try and find the gold Schutzenfest medals from the early 1900's.
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Beautiful 1905 Fribourg medal Ian, nicer than mine. (Catalog number is Richter 420.)
This medal has two obverse die varieties. The first is signed "HOLY FRERES" on the obverse and that's the one you have pictured.
The second is signed "Holy Frs" on the obverse. I have no idea which is common and which is scarce.
Both are pictured at the bottom of page 5 of this thread.
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Bravo guys, I cannot believe this thread is still going, and with vigor no less!
My sentiments exactly. I was out of the game at 1666...
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Actually Swiss shooting medals are still being made, but IMHO they are not as nice as those from the classical era like those Holy Freres pieces.
Believe it or not I didn't pay him to say that. We are simply men of impeccable taste and upbringing.
I haven't found a new Holy Freres medal in over a year. Someone please sell me one. PLEASE!
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That looks chest right to me.
All mammary references aside, that is a beautiful medal Ian!
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Very nice medals Ian, especially the 1903 Biel. One of Holy Freres most beautiful designs.
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I guess I have an affinity to the clean, sharp, but floral helmet motif...
That makes two of us, three if you count ScottishMoney...
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Perhaps you are speaking of Kim's oval medal R894 from Luzern 1920. If this is the case, this medal is not altered, the pin back was how it was awarded.
I forgot about the 1920 Luzern pinback when I asked the above question and I now assume that is what "altered" probably pertained to.
I think you are right Rod. People see a coin with a pinback and think "altered". Usually that is the case.
The 1920 Luzern tried to free itself from the old holder as seen here...
NGC put it into an edgeview holder which I really like. Here it is in it's new holder...
It's currently sitting on my nightstand as I type. I studied it for about a year before I even thought about having it certified. Now that is is certified I have been thinking about the amount of time and trouble it took to produce these. An amazing Schutzenfest medal to be sure!
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Zohar - As noted on another forum I don't think any of the new medals are overgraded. They all look spot on to me. Care to offer an opinion Rod?
TDP - The 1901 Luzern was designed by Hans Frei from Basel, one of my favorite Swiss engravers. ALL of his designs are beautiful, and some are actually affordable.
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Rod, you and your dad should be grading Schutzenfest medals for NGC. You have the experience and are experts in the field.
Sarasota is nice this time of year...
Swiss Shooting Medals
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Though I do like the reverse I bought this for the obverse and agree with Constanius that the correct side is featured.
I wanted this as a companion piece to this 1899 Langenthal, also by Homberg...