So far I haven't been quick enough to make a profit. I am happy to continue to buy as long as his premiums aren't to much over spot. I figure that they will go up over the long term and the grandson (3 on the 4th of July) might find use for them. And if the zombie/ werewolf Apocalypse comes I can melt them down and make bullets, for the Israely hand cannon, and the .50 cal Beowulf