Ian

a `stock' jeton of Henri IV dated 1597

....moving on, here's a nice example 1599 Drei Broders Taler from Saxony, Germany

and an even nicer example dated 1598

OK. Don't say I didn't give you guys a chance......

Here's a 1600 in the form of a damaged silver 3 groschen of Sigismund III of Poland. Nice collectable portrait coin

That jeton type is quite hard to come by for that particular date. Nice one!

The Irish penny however (while not exactly a pretty thing.....although beauty is indeed in the eyes of the beholder) is definitely in my `more than bloody difficult to find' category.

Again, nice one!....so who's going to post the 1600 dated coin then?

dug out some more of my french coins and decided to post relevant dates as well as move us forward a year

1605 quarter ecu, Saint-Lo mint

1604 1/8th ecu, Rennes mint. Significant die chatter on reverse

1603 quarter ecu `Dauphine', with a rather large cut taken from the flan. Too professionally done to be considered normal coin butchery. Probably doe for use in one of the French colonies, Any data on this one would be appreciated.

1602 huitieme d'ecu `de Navarre' (1/8th ecu). Worn but still a worthy collectable.

slver sixpence. James VI of Scotland.

Bronze medal issued in 1898 for the shooting fest. at Neuchatel. In need of a little conservation work, but nothing that detracts from the medal.

copper jeton issued for the Police at Le Chatelet, Paris and dated 1604

1605 yellow copper (aka `brass') jeton of Marie de Medici during her spell as Queen regent of France

OK, we're back in the groove so let's keep this rolling................

1606 silver 3 groschen from Transylvania. Nice portrait. Shame about the hole but hey....it's pretty scarce and still very collectable

Here's my latest acquisition. 38mm silver by Homberg issued for the 1897 Cantonal shoot at Beider (Basel). There's a slight edge knock, but this doesn't overly detract from my enjoyment of the medal.

Hi All You Swiss Shooting Medal Collectors!

 

I am new to the forum but have been collecting SSMs and shooting thalers for about five years.

 

My question to the forum is:

 

What do you think about the slabbing of Swiss Shooting Medals? I see that NGC is doing that currently but not sure how they arrived at their grading standards. I am sure that slabbing will eventually add value and a wider acceptance of the collecting of the medals but I sure like to be able to see and hold them without the plastic in the way.

 

Has anyone had their Swiss Shooting Medals slabbed by NGC? And if so, how was the grade you received compared to what you had anticipated?

I am soooo against `slabbing', especially very 3 dimensional medals such as these. What on earth do US `slabbers' such as NGC know about European coins and medals? Providing a service ?....or a dis-service? That would depend upon the indiyidual's own set of values and detwermination, but for me it is a big no-no.

Ian

Hey! Neither i nor my sofa are that old (not far off it though)! Not had much chance to search through my collection of late....(still unpacking it bit by bit after moving house last year) but i'd be surprised if I didn't have a 1607 somewhere. I had thought after this length of time one of you guys would have come up with one. Where's your motivation on this got to? Come on...Get raiding your piggy banks and go 4 it yourself

Or, maybe people got the idea for a good shield design from the many UFOs floating around?

Immediately thought of this thread when I first saw this jeton. Just had to buy it!

The jeton was issued for the town of Peronne in Picardie. I'm less than sure as to why it was issued but judging from the legend it seems to relate to recovery from defeat (?) Unless I am much mistaken, the allegorical figure of `Peronne' seems to be resting her left arm on a downed UFO. .........perhaps she swatted it with the palm leaves she has in her right hand?

An octagonal silver jeton i've just purchased. Didn't know it even existed before i saw this example last week. There is a similar item on the website of the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich, but their example has a different bust of Louis XVI with a slightly different obverse legend (Christianissimus' as opposed to the abbreviated 'Christianiss' on my example).

The jeton is rather topical in that it was struck to commemorate the establishment of a quarantine station for sailors (aka a lazaretto) at Marseille to help deal with containment of infectious disease such as the influenza virus that had a devastating effect in 1775 and to protect against the great smallpox epidemic of 1775 -82 (aka `Pox Americana') that blighted North America. The term quarantine is derived from `quarantina' which was the name given to the period of detention of 40 days first instigated at Marseille in 1383. This became the standard period for detaining people suspected of having a contagious disease.

Obverse: Youthful bust of Louis XVI, reverse: maritime scene loading supplies / medicines into a keep. Not sure if this is the fortress at Marseille harbour or the small island castle of Chateau D'If....or somewhere else entirely

Ian, you sent me surrying to the web to find just where one would find Sainte Madeleine en la Cité in Paris. Turns out it was pulled down in the Revoultion. Used to be in Rue de la Juiverie, now Rue de la Cité. A former synagogue converted in the XII century into a church, also "the seat of the oldest of Parisian confraternities --la grande confrérie de Notre Dame [...] which had the archbishop for its abbot and the president of Parliament for its dean" (pp 281-282 in Walks in Paris by Augustus John Cuthbert Hare). Here is the link: Walks in Paris

Sorry mate. I should have said `the now defunct........'

Thanks for the additional info. It adds more significance to the piece.

I agree, nice jeton. And you could catch a whale with a hook the size of that nose!

I have wondered if it was the source of inspiration for Concorde?

A scarcer silver jeton dated 1710 which was issued for the Paris church `Sainte Madeleine de la Cite'. Obverse depicts mature bust of Louis XIV (the sun king) and the reverse a scene from the last supper.

Fantastic. That was some find! Well done that man. It's pay back time for the time, money and effort you've invested in developing your own knowledge base.

Ian

I like the perspective on the interior on this one. Struck in white metal.

These low countries jetons are always in demand. Like most of that time, it generally conveys the concept that the good things in life are worth fighting for/ must be worked for.

A nice historical piece.

Ian

1612 1/8th teston issued for the town and Bishopric of Verdun under Charles of Lorraine-Chaligny

Hopefully someone else has a 1611

1613 double liard from Nevers et Rethel (France)