syzygy Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 One of favorite coins - 1939 Jefferson, doubled Monticello and Five Cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syzygy Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Although I am fond of this Kennedy (all of them, actually), the doubling is very slight. In fact, to be very honest, I would have wondered if this were machine doubling, but ANACS thinks it's a DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syzygy Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 This Jefferson has some very strong doubling. But nope, that's machine doubling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 nice finds!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanegalang Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 nice finds!! Hi, Awesome to see these errors! I have been collecting coins for about, well most of my life in one way or another. Something always draws me back to the errors. I dont have alot of errors in my collection but I'm working on it. Enjoyed your post and pictures. Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stilson Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 1884 O VAM 13 Double punched mint mark 1887 VAM-12 Alligator Eye 1887 O VAM-2 Doubled Date one of the widest double dates known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 ive been wanting to know this question.. what is the difference between machine doubleing and just a dd??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkykile Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 ive been wanting to know this question.. what is the difference between machine doubleing and just a dd??? According to Mr. Daughtrey: Machine damage doubling, or MDD, manifests itself in three basic forms, none of which has any collectible value by itself... one of these is generally attributed to a loose set screw in the die, which allows the die to bounce on the coin during coining. We should all know about having a screw loose... By the way, I think that this MDD is an unfair way to exclude us 'commoners'... those of us who cannot find really good errors... from the elite... 'those who find the best errors'. What do you think all think about this idea? Corky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 thanks corky!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 *Warning, another thing I must rant on* Personally I like MDD coins, especially the very strong MDD's. I have a cent that shows strong doubling, and even slight separation in the wording of one cent, and it's a MDD, but it's a fantastic coin. And then there is that mushy metal that comes along with MDD, very interesting, and NOT DAMAGE OF ANY KIND! Whoever says a MDD coin is damaged is either trying to protect the high and mighty doubled die coin prices, or not wanting to admit that this is really doubling. Okay, so the dies don't actually have any doubling on them, but the coin certainly shows doubling, WHY SHOULD THIS BE CONSIDERED POST MINT DAMAGE?!?!?!?!? Geh, I hate it when people try and claim that as truth, it's NOT. Machine doubling is because of a loose screw, rattling die, loose collar, or some other issue when the coin is stamped, and it is made in the mint, and is not post mint damage. The coin is AS STRUCK, and should be treated as such, not excluded as a damaged coin. MDD is a commonplace, and interesting event in the coining process, and should be treated as an anomoly, not damage. It may not bring extra money at auction, but it creates many interesting stand-alone errors that shouldn't be scoffed at, but kept, just as a star note in a banknote collection, or an overinked banknote. It's not a doulbed die, it's not a traditional "error", but it's interesting, and to some people collectable none-the-less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stilson Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Heres a nice strong mechanical doubling I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 eh i dont care what kind of doubling i find im gunna keep t!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stilson Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Thing I like about mechanical doubling it's a real good chance of being one of a kind. You can't say that about die doubling. It's kind of like die clashes on morgans. Why does it matter if its a letter or not. Its still a clash or later die state. I've got a nice triple die clash morgan. You can see the "v" of the cap and hair on the right side/eagles left wing three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Thing I like about mechanical doubling it's a real good chance of being one of a kind. You can't say that about die doubling. It's kind of like die clashes on morgans. Why does it matter if its a letter or not. Its still a clash or later die state. I've got a nice triple die clash morgan. You can see the "v" of the cap and hair on the right side/eagles left wing three times. Very cool, I love die clashed, lets see a pic of that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkykile Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 The coin is AS STRUCK, and should be treated as such, not excluded as a damaged coin Thank you thank you thank you... so eloquently put! Almost exactly what I was thinking. Love it. Now I can say I have some real error coins because they were minted like that! Corky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stilson Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Very cool, I love die clashed, lets see a pic of that one! At first I thought about making a new post, but it is "doubled" actually "tripled". You can barely make out the middle line. With what I have for a camera set up its real hard to take pictures of some thing subtle. This took about 60 shots and it really doesn't show it well. This was the only shot that even showed something other then one line. Most did not even show the most prominent one. I put some lines toward the die clash lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCanadianM Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 How how does a die get doubled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 At first I thought about making a new post, but it is "doubled" actually "tripled". You can barely make out the middle line. With what I have for a camera set up its real hard to take pictures of some thing subtle. This took about 60 shots and it really doesn't show it well. This was the only shot that even showed something other then one line. Most did not even show the most prominent one. I put some lines toward the die clash lines. Very very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 one of my personal favorites is the 1934 D VAM 3 peace dollar.... there is lots of doubling on this coin... the profile is doubled.. along with the "D" in "god" and the spikes on the crown are fully doubled.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Picker Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 How how does a die get doubled? Here ya go Big M.. theres some good reading on this site - http://www.bakercoins.net/learn/variety/ddie/index.html FWIW, im with Corky & VFox.! The MDD is not tracable to a specific die, so in a way, they are more unique than DD IMO.. C.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkykile Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 FWIW, im with Corky & VFox.! The MDD is not tracable to a specific die, so in a way, they are more unique than DD IMO.. Thank you again C.P. Now I think I got it. Seems the only way they can positively identify the anomaly is because there is a certain die with that specific problem. Well, I would think that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. What difference is it that I have one or two or three of the same coin and want to charge what the market will bear because the coin is rather unique? Sounds like the same capitalism to me. Anyway, I probably should have put my opinion on a different forum. It was just at that moment in time I had the urge to put to paper my thought on the subject. Corky (I don't need no stinkin dye) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LostDutchman Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 hot lips!!! i just bought one of those this morning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 here is another of my faves... 1960 D Large date over small date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stilson Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 1878 vam 7 spiked A The '7' in the date is doubled on the left side and tripled at the bottom Had to add the last picture since it was the same coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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