Emperor Oli Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Bought this a couple of months ago, but I don't know what it is, nor the date. Can anyone help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Don't collect ancients, but here is some info about what is depicted: http://www.hixenbaugh.net/hixenbaugh_ancie...website_097.htm (scroll down a little, to "Lysimachos, King of Thrace") Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willieboyd2 Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 The website "Wildwinds" has lots of pictures of Greek and Roman coins. http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I can read Lysimachos Basileus. It's a Lysimachos coin (one of the Alexanders the Great Generals). Tetradrachm Thrace 305BC-281BC 17,263 grams, Obverse Type: Head of Alexander the Great, profile to the right; border of dots. Reverse Type: Helmeted Athena seated on throne to the left, her left arm resting on shield; winged Nike stands on Athena's right hand, and crowns Lysimachos' name. Reverse Legend: BASILEÔS LUSIMACHOU http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext...BCMA%201914.6.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Oli Posted January 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Thank you for all of your replies, especially Banivechi! Mine has something like a counterstamp to the left of the left legend, but other than that it's the same coin. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 What a superb coin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Oli Posted January 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Only cost a fiver too, a junk box find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Go to www.wildwinds.com, then to Greek section, type Lysimachos in search window, and you will find dozens of pictures of different variants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Oli Posted January 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I looked through all of them, and only one or two had a stamp in the same place as mine, but it didn't look anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 It is normal during 24 years of issuing the same type of coins that mintmasters initials to be different. Maybe not all initials are listed there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarotta Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I looked through all of them, and only one or two had a stamp in the same place as mine, but it didn't look anything like it. What about the Sigma beneath the Nike? Yours has that. Does any of the others? The ones with the mintmarks in the same place as yours, where were they struck? Also -- details count -- yours has the word BASILEOS diagonally toward 11 o'clock. A five dollar (or five pound) junk box find. Congratulations! Was that a coin shop or a flea market? And have you weighed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Neat piece! (Sorry, don't really know anything about it, though) Is that a copper core showing at the right edge of the reverse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlueke Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 I'd have to say reproduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Oli Posted January 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Is that a copper core showing at the right edge of the reverse? No, it's just the photo. I'd have to say reproduction. Why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlueke Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Why do you say that? For one that you found it in a junk box, not impossible but unlikely. The style doesn't look quite right, but that could just be more. More importantly, the sigma on the reverse doesn't appear on any genuine coins that I know of and is used by some of the more honest Eastern European engravers to denote a reproduction. Finally, the thing at 9 o'clock looks unlike anything I've noted before. Your best bet for a definive answer would probably be to post this to Moneta-L or on the Forum site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Oli Posted January 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 For one that you found it in a junk box, not impossible but unlikely.The style doesn't look quite right, but that could just be more. More importantly, the sigma on the reverse doesn't appear on any genuine coins that I know of and is used by some of the more honest Eastern European engravers to denote a reproduction. Finally, the thing at 9 o'clock looks unlike anything I've noted before. Your best bet for a definive answer would probably be to post this to Moneta-L or on the Forum site. I just posted it on the Forum, so we shall sit and wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlueke Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 I just posted it on the Forum, so we shall sit and wait. Cool, I hope someone knows specifically what it is, real or not, cause now I'm curious. Did you weigh it? Is it tetradrachm or drachm size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Oli Posted January 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Cool, I hope someone knows specifically what it is, real or not, cause now I'm curious. "The Forum" Link "The obverse looks perfect: wear, where it is to be expected; dark patina, even in scratches; good round edge. The reverse shows a fingerprint, possibly made with an 'inky' finger. The acid in ink will leave a stain forever. The die with which the coin was struck (no doubt in my mind) shows a peculiar craquelure I can not explain, but perhaps a metallurgist can. I find the execution overall of good quality and I would not doubt the coin." "You have quite nice tetradrachm of Lysimachos, king of Thrace. Even if it was a fake (I not doubt the coin too), it should be a very good copy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlueke Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 "The Forum" Link "The obverse looks perfect: wear, where it is to be expected; dark patina, even in scratches; good round edge. The reverse shows a fingerprint, possibly made with an 'inky' finger. The acid in ink will leave a stain forever. The die with which the coin was struck (no doubt in my mind) shows a peculiar craquelure I can not explain, but perhaps a metallurgist can. I find the execution overall of good quality and I would not doubt the coin." "You have quite nice tetradrachm of Lysimachos, king of Thrace. Even if it was a fake (I not doubt the coin too), it should be a very good copy." Hopefully that is true, I need the sigma explained to convicne myself Also, what is the size and weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Oli Posted January 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Also, what is the size and weight? It weighs ~16g and is about 26mm at its widest point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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