BKB Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Been looking for it for a long time. Then waiting for it for a long time -- years after purchase. I know it is not pretty. I know that in this condition it is hard to prove that it is real. Will have to do until I find an unc. coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I really enjoy a good well used copper. I'd say a very nice coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ugly with nice details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Mr. BKB is being modest. The 1812EM Kopeck is a very rare coin. It was unlisted in Brekke, though appeared in the later Brekke/Bakken supplement with a note that "its existence is now confirmed by Uzdenikov". I have only one photographic record of it, the Zubov example from 1897. Giel & Ilyin priced at at 40 Roubles and Bitkin lists it at R3. If it is indeed real, it's a great coin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Who knows if it is real?... Looks better than anything that was posing as 1812 till now. There was that Basok's coin (maybe one day...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Great find! Sure it'd not 1819? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Looks pretty solidly like a 2 to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I honestly do not know what a 2 should look like on this coin. Does anyone have a reference image? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Zubov is too bad to compare. Although, the dies are similar enough. Basok's coin was completely different. The known overdate 1815/2 is also different die. I have half of mind (which is no surprise) that there was a large number of coins minted, but they were destroyed,or, otherwise disappeared. The closest "2" is 22, which is too far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I should qualify/clarify what I said. it could conceivably be a fake--I don't handle enough of these to really know (who has?)--and it appears there aren't decent pictures. I just don't think from the picture that it was intended to read "1819." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 From Zubov - Material in Russian Numismatics (1897) - Plate VI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Zubov's coin is different, but I like BKB's better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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