nicholasz219 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Hello All: I was playing cards the other day and noticed a player using a card protector that looked suspiciously familiar. There was a diagonally reeded edge on a thick copper planchet. There was a heraldic Russian eagle surrounded by about ten stars. I asked the person if he could turn over the coin to see the other side. When he did, 10 Kopeck and 1796 on the obverse. I have never seen a 10 Kopeck piece such as this and I asked him if it was a 10 Kopeck piece and he said yes. He left shortly after that so I didn't get a chance to really find anything out about it. I had never seen anything like it. Is this a fantasy piece? Thanks, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Do you mean something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterShell Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Do you mean something like this? No Alex, He said about "eagle" so dif. type..I know which one but this is fantasy... If I find picture will post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 No Alex, He said about "eagle" so dif. type..I know which one but this is fantasy... If I find picture will post Yes I remember having seen that phantasy piece on eBay. 10 kopek 1796 but showing the eagle of the 10 kopek 1762. A pretty ugly modern fake. Sigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterShell Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 hmmm..of course we see only modern fakes..but as far as I remember, there was a "novodel" from 1796 with stars and eagle and of course "drums"/barabany.. so probably it was this one - mean this type - don't think it was original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasz219 Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Well, I really didn't think it was real because it didn't make sense from what I know of the series of coins from that time. The design was unusual enough that it stuck in my head and made me ask the person what the other side looked like. But then I remembered that the coin should have either been a piece of Elizabeth II like posted above or a silver 10 K piece. So it was very confusing. I admit to getting briefly excited at the sight of what *might* be a Russian coin sitting next to me in the most unusual of circumstances: a poker room. It would be like getting Paul I copper in change at McDonalds. It shouldn't be there, so you don't expect it which makes it even more interesting to see it when it pops up. If anyone can post any information on what this fantasy piece might be, I'd like to learn more. Thanks, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasz219 Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 I found it in Uzdenikov. I must have missed it that night when I arrived home. Uzdenikov # 2910, plate number 155. Novodel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Yes I remember having seen that phantasy piece on eBay. 10 kopek 1796 but showing the eagle of the 10 kopek 1762. A pretty ugly modern fake. Sigi Here's one from my records: eBay Item 2222999092 Sold Feb 10 2004. Price: $38. Winning bidder elenaussr. Seller mishelev. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasz219 Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 That doesn't seem to be a very high selling price for a novodel. I am also surprised that this is the first time I am seeing one of these coins, either in person or on ebay/internet. Considering how low the price was for the listing that you mention, Steve, you would think that the price implies relative commonality and that I should see these coins much more frequently. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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STEVE MOULDING Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 That doesn't seem to be a very high selling price for a novodel. I am also surprised that this is the first time I am seeing one of these coins, either in person or on ebay/internet. Considering how low the price was for the listing that you mention, Steve, you would think that the price implies relative commonality and that I should see these coins much more frequently. Strange. Your first instinct is right; it's not a Novodel. The price is reflective of the fact that it's a cheap piece of junk. I wouldn't pay $38 for it. I have images of others, much the same. Uzdenikov 2910 is the real article and is extremely rare. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasz219 Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 So, I guess I shouldn't have immediately offered to pay $500 for the one I saw, right? Just kidding. I actually like the design a lot. I think the ten stars on the reverse indicating the value is a nice design element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasz219 Posted April 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 So it is safe to say that this offering is really a hunk of modern garbage, correct? 1796 10K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 So it is safe to say that this offering is really a hunk of modern garbage, correct? : That pretty much sums it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 So it is safe to say that this offering is really a hunk of modern garbage, correct? 1796 10K Well, I think it's 20-30 years old now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasz219 Posted April 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Sigh.......I actually was excited to even see it at first glance then as soon as I looked at it, I figured it was junk. One day, one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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