chagall12 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hi all This silver medal 51mm 56.5 g signed B.A. is a bit similar to Diakov 631.1 found as nr 3 in this link http://www.coinarchives.com/w/results.php?...amp;results=100 But hair style is quite different. Is it the same engraver ? And what is inscription and engraving saying ? Is exact this medal listed in any reference work ? Grateful for answer from experts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi allThis silver medal 51mm 56.5 g signed B.A. is a bit similar to Diakov 631.1 found as nr 3 in this link http://www.coinarchives.com/w/results.php?...amp;results=100 But hair style is quite different. Is it the same engraver ? And what is inscription and engraving saying ? Is exact this medal listed in any reference work ? Grateful for answer from experts IMHO This medal was awarded in 1831 to a merchant company "Amelung and Son(s)". This is just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 IMHO This medal was awarded in 1831 to a merchant company "Amelung and Son(s)". This is just a guess. The original poster wanted translations of the inscriptions and these read as follows: Obverse: BY THE GRACE OF GOD NICHOLAS I EMPEROR AND AUTOCRAT OF ALL THE RUSSIAS. Reverse: FOR DILIGENCE AND ART. In the time of Nicholas II these medals seem to have been issued primarily for agricultural topics but I am not sure of the rules for such medals under Nichoasl I. It may be the case that the issuing authority had wide latitude in such matters. The reverse seems to be the same die as the other illustration and it may simply be that a new obverse was executed when the first obverse die cracked or otherwise could not be used. It might also be that the Emperor did not like this particular portrait and ordered a new die. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I checked in Diakov's book and there is a 463.2 version of the medal with portrait the same as yours. It is by the same engraver - V. Alexeev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chagall12 Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I checked in Diakov's book and there is a 463.2 version of the medal with portrait the same as yours. It is by the same engraver - V. Alexeev Thank you all. Now I have the correct number Diakov 463.2 What rarity grade was put on it by Diakov ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Thank you all. Now I have the correct number Diakov 463.2What rarity grade was put on it by Diakov ? R2 in silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Thank you all. Now I have the correct number Diakov 463.2What rarity grade was put on it by Diakov ? I think dates 1831 (yours) and 1843 (from coinarchieve) explains the difference in hair style, if same engraver as by Diakov, so 12 years being an active engraver is a long way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chagall12 Posted May 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 I think dates 1831 (yours) and 1843 (from coinarchieve) explains the difference in hair style, if same engraver as by Diakov, so 12 years being an active engraver is a long way to go Thank you all for good work chagall12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Thank you all for good workchagall12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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