AnemicOak Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Anyone have a good reference site about these, or know anything about them? My Great Great Grandfather served with the 36th TX Cavalry during the war & I thought it might be interesting to pick up a few of these. I know there were civil & military varieties, but that's about it. No idea what they go for or any ways to tell real from fake. Any info is appreciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 http://www.rebelstatescurrency.com/texas.html http://www.deerrunmercantile.com/browseproducts/Index14.html http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V...;userid=crutch2 as we say down in texas...they aint cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 as we say down in texas...they aint cheap! They sure aren't, but I still think I might end up with a few. I just worry about fakes. Seems to me it would be much easier to fake something like this than it would a coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I buy notgeld and that is always my fear when buying something like that. With notgeld...they are pretty cheap even when they are real so you dont lose a lot of money. With real expensive paper money...you are taking a chance... All I can say is that the ebay seller I linked you to, I have heard good things...that is I have heard he is very honest and knowledgable and specialized in paper note from the time period...crutchfield...goes by crutch2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San_Miguel98 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I agree with Drusus. Crutchfield is honest, reliable, and very knowledgeable in this arena. I purchased all of my Republic of Texas notes from him. Here's his website, he has quite a few warrants listed with retail prices : http://www.crutchwilliams.com/RepublicOfTexas.htm On a side note, I'm with the 36th Combat Aviation Brigade, 36th Infantry Division...the Army's "Texas Division". I'm starting to think Texas really likes that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I buy notgeld and that is always my fear when buying something like that. With notgeld...they are pretty cheap even when they are real so you dont lose a lot of money. I just bought a lot of 25 of these & another lot of 100. They are very interesting (& these were quite cheap). Is there a reference out there that's considered "the" reference? I think I found something else to collect. Is this book good??? http://cgi.ebay.com/Notgeld-Money-Book-191...1QQcmdZViewItem Anyone know if the city of Dillenburg issued any notgeld? I'd especially be interested in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 1989 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I buy notgeld and that is always my fear when buying something like that. With notgeld...they are pretty cheap even when they are real so you dont lose a lot of money. With real expensive paper money...you are taking a chance... All I can say is that the ebay seller I linked you to, I have heard good things...that is I have heard he is very honest and knowledgable and specialized in paper note from the time period...crutchfield...goes by crutch2... Sorry if I sound a bit thick but what is a notgeld? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Sorry if I sound a bit thick but what is a notgeld? Well, the ones I was refering to (not 100% sure Drusus meant the same ones) were money printed/minted by various German Cities (Stadt) during the inflation of the post-WW1 era. They are very unique & there are tons of designs. There are also notgeld from Austria & from what I can find a few other places too. I know nothing of this dealer, but he pic on his site shows a bunch of different notes. There were also coins. http://www.pomexport.com/N-CollectGermanNo...rmanNotgeld.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Brian, thats the book I have...but buy it at amzon...you can get a nice good used copt for 12-14 dollars...the price for that book it way over what you have to pay. Johnny, Notgeld are hyper inflationary emergency money (large bulk of it WWI WWII German paper money but there is france, japan, etc…)...and it is also coins...iften minted in Iron, Porcelain, and the like. They are usually printed and minted by townships and city (Stadt). They are wonderfully creative, funny, sometimes scary (anti-Semitic) themes that give you a look into the society of the time. I havent uploaded any of my paper notgeld but I have a few coin notgeld...I am going to branch my site off to devote a section just to it since I have been buying them up like crazy. Iron coin from Stadt Duren, my favorite of all I have seen so far Porcelain Coin from Saxony Very large coin with a large nenomination…I have 10000 but some go as high as a billion. when I get home I might upload a few of my hi res bills, some of them are just plain wonderful works of art, some are funny...I have some that are runs of bills that deal with daily life, beer, middle ages, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Iron coin from Stadt Duren, my favorite of all I have seen so far Oh, I love that one. I'll have to keep a look out for an example. Thanks for the book info too. I figured that auction was high, but it was the first thing I found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 1989 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Brian, thats the book I have...but buy it at amzon...you can get a nice good used copt for 12-14 dollars...the price for that book it way over what you have to pay. Johnny, Notgeld are hyper inflationary emergency money (large bulk of it WWI WWII German paper money but there is france, japan, etc…)...and it is also coins...iften minted in Iron, Porcelain, and the like. They are usually printed and minted by townships and city (Stadt). They are wonderfully creative, funny, sometimes scary (anti-Semitic) themes that give you a look into the society of the time. I havent uploaded any of my paper notgeld but I have a few coin notgeld...I am going to branch my site off to devote a section just to it since I have been buying them up like crazy. Iron coin from Stadt Duren, my favorite of all I have seen so far Porcelain Coin from Saxony Very large coin with a large nenomination…I have 10000 but some go as high as a billion. when I get home I might upload a few of my hi res bills, some of them are just plain wonderful works of art, some are funny...I have some that are runs of bills that deal with daily life, beer, middle ages, etc... Thanks for the info I'm going to have a look out for some of these Notgeld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Oh, I love that one. I'll have to keep a look out for an example.Thanks for the book info too. I figured that auction was high, but it was the first thing I found. Oohh.. Looks like a hobo nickel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Duren had another one with a pilot as well, have yet to find a nice one at the right price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 BTW...I went ahead and uploaded a few of the notgeld bills I have...I have stacks of them now...I think I am drawn to numismatic nitches like Conder Tokens and Notgeld...I even started collecting Hell Notes Some of these come in sets...like the altona and schalkau...the altona ones are real cool...hell, they are all real cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Cool stuff Drusus. I've got a ton of notes on the way. Can't wait 'til they get here. I also picked up two coins... I've got a total of 132 of the notes coming. Don't know yet what they all are as they were mostly random lots, but here's one I got off ebay that I really like (I'd like to get this whole series)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Very nice, the Stadt Duren iron coin you have there is cool...Just as a note, Duren was situated near an iron mine which is why a lot of the notgeld from there is iron (I assume) and that one shows a miner. That Gilt porceline coin from saxony is very nice as well...I am looking to get a complete set from both those. The knight theme is a popular one in notgeld and that one is a very fine example. This one is one I am looking to get my hands on...its one of the finest looking notgeld coins I have seen (its aluminum)...just amazing in its design IMO. Here are a few more in the Schalkau Series that I have completed that deals with knights. I bought a few lots in a similar manner (bulk) getting all kinds of great notes...many I just havent gotten around to scanning. Now I am just trying to concentrate on coins and finishing sets that I started in the lots I bought. I am also looking to buy a notgeld album (contemporary albums made for notgeld as people seem to have started collecting them as they came out) to better store them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 1989 Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Wow these notgeld notes look fantastic, off to ebay I go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 1989 Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Here's two sets I just purchased off of eBay, once I receive them I'll post a better picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 This one is one I am looking to get my hands on...its one of the finest looking notgeld coins I have seen (its aluminum)...just amazing in its design IMO. Wonderful. I'm going to have to watch for one of those. I am also looking to buy a notgeld album (contemporary albums made for notgeld as people seem to have started collecting them as they came out) to better store them. Got any links? I looked around, but didn't see any specific albums. I was figuring I'd get some Ultra-Pro pages & go from there, but if there's a specific album it'd be something else to consider. Here's two sets I just purchased off of eBay, once I receive them I'll post a better picture Very nice Johnny. There are so many wonderful & colorful designs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 There are all kinds of notgeld albums and they come up here and there...a few sites aften sell them, Ijust havent taken the time to find one and buy it... here is a notgeld I have that even shows an album on it: http://cgi.ebay.de/Notgeld-Album-leer-35x2...9QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.at/Notgeld-Album-aus-Priva...2QQcmdZViewItem ^^ There are a few that have already sold... http://www.mehlis.eu/auktionskataloge/45-a...objekte/0005045 I dont see a lot for sale and often times they are filled already with notgeld so they are pretty expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Duren had another one with a pilot as well... Here's a bad pic of a pilot 1/2 Mark. I picked it up super cheap on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Yup...thats the one very nice...love the portriats on the Duren coins. I have to say I missed that one and I search ebay for that coin a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 It was on ebay UK, with no bidders so I grabbed it for $2 plus shipping. The pics aren't very good (highly pixelated, etc.), but it appears to be in decent shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Nice design. One can have a lot of fun with notgeld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnemicOak Posted April 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 One can have a lot of fun with notgeld. They are quite interesting. I'm glad to find something so interesting & inexpensive to get into (thanks Drusus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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