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German States-Saxony, Christian II with Johann Georg & Augustus and Friedrich Wilhelm of Saxe-Altenburg, Regent (1591-1601), Thaler, 1592, Hans Biener, Mintmaster
(orb) CHRISTIAN . IOHAN : GEORG . ET . AVGVSTVS
facing half-length busts of the three brothers, 15 | 9Z above
FRAT : ET . DV_CES . SAXON :This is not my collecting area but comparing your pics & the ones on the link, I would think it is genuine. The weight should be slightly less on the one in your pics as it is a more worn.
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Agree with ccg, probably fresh from China, sorry.
This link shows what it should look like, gives weight.
http://munzeo.com/coin/bayern-taler-1760-patrona-bavaria-1387676
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Do you wear gloves when holding your medals.
I confess I do not. Even my Kettle pieces and others contain lead(Pb)
From, THE CHEMICAL COMPOSITIONS OF NINETEENTH CENTURY
COPPER-BASE ENGLISH JETONS by M. B. MITCHINER, C. MORTIMER and A. M. POLLARD. -
I am no expert but as California(which has the highest anti-pollution standards) allows 0.25% in water pipes and people actually wash in and ingest the water, I would think it would be okay for 0.1%.
Then again I collect the odd cast renaissance medal, and they tend to have a high lead content to assist in the metal flowing in the mold, so you might be wise to just ignore my opinion.
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Charles VI 1380-1422, similar type ecu as per Rouyer #1166
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Congrats to Clive and George. This wedding thing is just wonderful!!!
Ditto
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BHM#1136 by? W.Woodhouse 25mm AE R. Br. R
I believe I saw this on eBay recently, a very nice acquisition
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Though I do not collect coins, just medals & tokens, I found your post & link most interesting, thank you!
From my perspective, genuine error coins/medals are worth more because of their uniqueness.
If most collectors of British coins have not clued into this yet, then it would be a good time to start collecting "errors" before they do and the inevitable increase in prices.
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The number of 500 was just used as an example by Elverno in his post. That said, it is possible that 500+ were struck.
Rarity of tokens/medals is judged by the numbers that are estimated to have survived in collectible condition , as it is seldom know how many were struck.
The monetary value of one of these in "rather poor condition" would be minimal.
Without a picture it is very hard to give value on medals/tokens.
Its value lies more in the history it contains.
This link http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,31511.msg199025.html#msg199025 is of one of my posts which gives some background to the medal and includes tales of smuggling, gold & powerful people.
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It appears to just be a tourist piece, for use as a key fob & chain, not a genuine byzantine coin. I am no expert but I believe I am right, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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It is BHM#1418 by T. Halliday, listed as WM. N.
The Paul Pry was first issued on 21st Feb. 1830 and ran till the 13th Mar. 1831, when it merged with The Intelligence, which only lasted till July 24th the same year, 1831. Both newspapers were owned by the same person.
1830 figures for total number Government stamps issued for London newspapers.*Paul Pry and Intelligence.......99,718. * = same owner.cost, Intelligence 222 pounds, 5 shillings, Paul Pry 23 pounds, 12 shillings and 6 pence.This is my example, which I acquired in 2008 and your post prompted me to finally take some pictures of it, thanks.
The Paul Pry was named for a theatrical character, who was always poking his nose into other people's business. There are many cartoons of the character & some tokens. Here is one token that, again, I had not got around to taking pics until your post, so thanks again!
O. Figure of Paul Pry, with Eye Glasses in left Hand, and an Umbrella under right Arm, "Just drop't in Hope I don't intrude" his catch phrase.T.W.I. belowR. A Crown, within a Wreath of Roses, Thistles, and Shamrocks. Batty #2467, not listed in gilt(though #2470 with different reverse is)22mm by Thomas Wells Ingram."John Liston as Paul Pry circa 1825" by Folger Shakespeare Library, Washington, DC (Julie Ainsworth, photographer) - http://luna.folger.edu/luna/servlet/s/8390c7 (stable URL for high-resolution zoomable version). Licensed under CC BY 4.0 via Wikimedia Commons - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:John_Liston_as_Paul_Pry_circa_1825.jpg#/media/File:John_Liston_as_Paul_Pry_circa_1825.jpg -
That's a great catch.
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You are correct as to the number of bees, I suspect it is just a variant die.
I would be more than happy to accept it as F. 5438 though you could PM Ian, as I believe he has Mitchener, which might have it listed.
For what its worth, I am sure it is a genuine piece
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5438 is listed as C7 jaune, for brass, normal called laiton in French. Cuivre jaune is literally copper yellow, so in this instance C jaune = brass.
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A brass example from a different reverse bee hive die http://www.cgb.fr/corporations-le-corps-des-marchands-reunis,fjt_05787,a.html
A copper example 5437, which appears to match your reverse bee hive http://www.montay-numismatique.fr/jeton-corps-marchands-runis-p-11282.html
So I think you are okay!
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Need to know denomination or size and metal.
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The farthing is a Conder Token(named after James Conder, "An arrangement of Provincial Coins, tokens, and medalets issued in Great Britain, Ireland, and the colonies, within the last twenty years, from the farthing to the penny size" , more correctly known as an 18th Century Provincial Token, which is a bit long winded so conder works. Not to be confused with Condor, which is a bird.
15 or more likely 15a as it appears to have non-milled rounded edge. The large flan is 24mm, the small 22mm. 15a large is common, 15a small is rare. The 15 milled only comes in large flan and is scarce.
The first is a Bank of Upper Canada token.
In 1850, the Bank of Upper Canada received the right to issue a coinage due to a severe coin shortage. The coinage consisted of 1/2 Penny and 1 Penny Bank Tokens. The obverse of the coins carried a representation of St.George slaying the dragon based on Benedetto Pistrucci's gold sovereign coinage design. The reverse of the coins carried the then obsolete Coat-of-Arms of Upper Canada. The 1850 issue was struck at the Royal Mint, London, but the coins did not arrive in Canada until 1851.
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It is Isaac Newton by Christian Ironside, the British Museum has a bronze example http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=3129532&partId=1&searchText=ironside+newton&page=1 takes a while to load.
Here is the image
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You guys are all so nice
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BHM#46 1761 Gilded AE, 25mm RR., by?BHM#79 1762, Br, 25mm N., by?BHM#87 1763, Br, 25mm R., by?Though the engravers for all 3 of these medals are listed as unknown, it is apparent they are all by the same hand, no one seems to have noted that fact, can I claim the discovery of a small series of medalsBrown does point out the error of calling Frederick D. of Gloucester, he was in fact Duke of York.
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A beauty, I like the toned storm cloud on the reverse!
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All in my backyard, which is a lot of work but helps keep me fit!
Thanks guys, here is a combined image of 2 photos from early spring with the apple tree in full blosssom.
A northern flicker, what a striking bird.
and one of the wild bunnies, looks like he is poking his(green) tongue out.
A rare visitor, a Brown Thrasher, they are a very hard bird to get a good picture of because they skulk in thick undergrowth mostly, this one had a dip in the bird-bath and was drying in the sun
Another fledgling.......Cowbird.
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Fledgling Baltimore Oriole, my backyard. For the first time, the woodpeckers have decided that what is okay for the Orioles is okay for them too!.
Not to be out done, even though there are humming-bird feeders.
Chippy watches all this audacity with amazement, oblivious to the fact he is not a bird!!!
Fledgling female Rose Breasted Grosbeak.
Fledgling Robin, but he already knows the value of a good umbrella.
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Those are lovely. There's not a lot of available info on tokens I can learn from so thanks for posting.
Try this link Suz, http://www.wnccoins.com/0029.htm and welcome
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A slightly better example!
16th Century Apostles Medal Series.
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