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Thanks Pat, I too could find little information. I like your idea of the uniface copy although why buy one and not have it engraved? It's fairly likely that the first prize medals were gilt, at 61 mm that would have made solid gold a trifle expensive.
Perhaps to frame and hang on the wall, or to incorporate in a paper-weight etc. Hence the reverse would not be seen.
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1875 Manchester Exhibition http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/1875_Manchester_Exhibition
The exhibition was held in a large temporary building erected on the Cheetham-hill-road, in one of the suburbs of Manchester. [1]. Opened on Friday 14th May
REPORT from the Manchester Evening News :-
'THE CHEETHAM HILL EXHIBITION.
'The following report of the Jurors has been published. In presenting this report to the Council of the Society for the Promotion of Scientific Industry the Jurors have to state that the medals and certificates of merit have been awarded after careful investigation for one or all of the following qualties—novelty, design, workmanship, and utility. As the Society's medals and certificates were limited to certain distinct classes, the Jurors have not been able to make awards, in all cases where they recognised merit. In the exhibits of Messrs. M'Naught andMessrs. Petrie of wool-scouring machinery, the Jurors desire to express their appreciation of the excellence of design and workmanship displayed in these machines. In the exhibit of Sir Joseph Whitworth and Co. the Jurors were not able to make any award, but they desire to express their appreciation of the value of the compressed steel shown in this exhibit.
'The Jurors recommend that the following awards be made by the Council of the Society:— http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/1875_Manchester_Exhibition
MEDALS AWARDED.
GOLD
'Dodge and Co. file-cutting machine; Smith and Coventry, collection of screwing machines, bolt chasing machines, and lathes; Pooley and Son, collection of weighing machines; W. Furness and Co. collection of wood working machines, planing and moulding machines. Charles Harris, paper bag making machine; Leoni and Co. collection of atmospheric gas cooking stoves; Mirrlees, Tait and Watson (Weston's patent), self-balancing centrifugal hydro-extractor.
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The only thing I could find that referenced a gold(Gilt?) version was pre-exhibition,
"Exhibition Of Appliances For The Economy Of Labour, 1875.— The Council of the Society for the Promotion of Scientific Industry, the head quarters of which are at Manchester, has decided to give gold, silver, and bronze medals for excellence and novelty in the various classes of exhibits at the Exhibition of Implements, Machines, and Appliances for the Economising of Labour, which is to take place in Manchester, in 1875. The arrangements for the exhibition are progressing satisfactorily, and space has been secured by many high-class engineering and other firms."
Plus this later advert, 1888, showing a gold medal awarded to the company in 1875 at the exhibition. https://books.google.ca/books?id=fHvNAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR11&lpg=PR11&dq=Manchester+Exhibition+for+Science+and+Industry.gold+medal+1875&source=bl&ots=wU71kUthBX&sig=QKafBRAg08iVRt2OGO8y4YpnL0o&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
It would seem strange not to award gold medals for the top exhibitors, why the reverse is blank is open to conjecture. One possibility is that winners could order unifaced copies for display etc.
One more advert,
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the nail-dime was expected to go for $10,000, and ultimately went for $42,300. Wow.
That is a great price!!!
Have you seen this one http://lincolncentsonline.com/Nail.html
https://sullivannumismatics.com/coin/pcgs-1c-nd-lincoln-cent-struck-steel-nail-ms-63 a bargain by comparison.
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Fresh from China
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A cast square apothecaries’ weight, the letters Zÿ stand for 2 drachms.
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We will all miss you Art but you have to do what is right for you.
Hopefully you will return to us, when you have had a break.
Best Wishes
Pat
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I love conder tokens, and have considered starting a collection for several years. But I need to learn more first, so thanks for the link.
Try this one https://issuu.com/landsum/docs/b-l for a flip-book and this one http://provincialtokencoinage.weebly.com/ (this is downloadable just scroll to the RED Download)
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It is an 18th Century Provincial Token, Dalton & Hamer lists it as Edinburgh #50, which has an inscription around the edge, if it as an engrailed edge(ridges) no inscription it is #50a.
You can download a free flip book here http://provincialtokencoinage.weebly.com/ scroll down to the top of the blue page, to the right click on the red "Download"
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Very nice, is this a new area of collecting for you?
Often thought of collecting some of these myself but so far have been able to resist. Have you visited this site http://issuu.com/landsum/docs/stc?e=2565297/3024483 ?
I have a lot of conder tokens & early 18th century token copper pennies(including workhouse), I should make an effort to take some pictures & post them.
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Glad you finally acquired such a nice example
Not sure if you are interested in the details of Sirius PS....but here they are
Iron Steam Vessel, built by Messrs Wm. Fairbairn and Co., of Millwall, London1837 Sirius, 249 tons, 70 horse power, 175ft. lenght of deck , 17 beam, 7ft. 10in depth of hold. .Built for the Rhone The engines were high pressure with locomotive tubular boilers Her speed was 12 miles an hour and she drew when light 2ft 6in. She was very stable and made the passage to Marseilles partly under canvass She was out in a very heavy gale in the Bay of Biscay and behaved well and on her arrival at Marseilles was as dry as when she left the river Thames not having made the least water or having sprung in the least degree.She was the first "Iron Ship" registered at Lloyds, -
" From Dietzels workshop comes a few unusual allegorical regnepenninge. One calls for compassion Having regard to the reward from God - not as one might expect the afterlife reward, but a highly cash salary in the temporal, if you believe the image (Fig. 24) "
http://www.danskmoent.dk/artikler/jsjregne.htm
Great find, the one pictured above was "found in a stud hole in the gate post from demolished house in Naestved"
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Great set of medals
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Re Weiser token, this might be of interest http://tokencatalog.com/token_record_forms.php?action=DisplayTokenRecord&td_id=1511&inventory_id=1467&attribution_id=111953&td_create_uid=2
Also http://cleo2.tripod.com/weisernews.html related to the owners of the above cigar store & newspaper proprietors.
HISTORY OF THE WEISER NEWS CO.01/13/03"I am a collector of Idaho trade tokens and am researching for a book that will catalog them and provide a small historical sketch of the businesses and individuals who used them as part of their operation. If you are not familiar with trade tokens, they were widely used in the first half of the 1900s, but they have been in use (in Idaho) from about 1865 to the present. They were used in lieu of coins - a general store might buy butter and eggs from farmers and pay them either in tokens or at a discount in cash. The farmer would then use the tokens at a later time to buy staple goods from the store. Cigar stores often had a card game going where the tokens were used in gambling instead of poker chips or cash to avoid the laws. Also, good cigars were priced at "two for a quarter" or 15 cents each, so a customer might pay a quarter and get one cigar for now, and a token good for a cigar (or 12 - 1/2 cents) that could be spent later. -
Happy New Year!
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A filled die? Or someone altered the "2" to look like a "7"?
The "2" has the base line filled(on the die) or it has been removed from the coin, ditto the down-stroke of the upper-front?
Just 2 possibilities. Close inspection might show some evidence of either.
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A lot of interesting items.
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Copper (30mm) (D.& W.9/92;M.G.587).
The British Museum has this & another of Bannister's "tickets or passes" the other one is signed by my old friend Bagnall(William) http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=737375001&objectId=81417&partId=1 , this one is unfortunately unsigned, though the names Durn and Itley have been scratched under the performers. Bannister's forename is given as James and as Jas(for James) in the very few available references, strangely on the Bagnall example he has In(for John) probably just a mistake. Bagnall's female rider is, I believe, Bannister's daughter Sarah(?), who after Bannister went bankrupt circa 1818, joined the famous Astley's circus and became the star attraction there, as she previously had been at her Father's Olympic Circus. The rider on my version is a man(possibly Bannister?) and leads me to believe it is the earlier of the two, so it might be date-able as 1800-1814.
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ID and a link. That is all I will offer.
Gold Iran Pahlavi Coins
http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/iran-5-pahlavi-km-1164-1339-1353-cuid-53933-duid-146602
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A shame that "COPY" is so dominant.
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I think the monogram is TB for Thomas Bernard, he did used TB.
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Revue belge de numismatique et de sigillographie, Volume 7 page 326.
LEOD is short for LEODIENSIS = Liege.
1714
Diameter in mm : 28 mm S.R.I ARCHICAM = Sacri Romani Imperii Archicamerarius(Treasurer of the Holy Roman Empire)
Metal : Cuivre rouge
OBVERSE Legend : IOS. CLEM. ARCH. COL. S. R. I. ARCHICAM. ET. ELECT. DVX. BAU..
Description : Buste à droite de Joseph-Clémen archevêque de Cologne, signé H.B.
REVERSE Legend : SUBDITIS. CLEMENS. 1714.
Translation : Clément envers ses sujets(to his subjects)
Description : Lion assis à gauche(seated left)
Engraver : Hercule Le Breton
Reference: Feuardent 14582a(1744 sic), Appel. p.187. #6.Joseph Clemens(Clements) von Wittelsbach ( 1671 - 1723), Archbishop-Elector of Cologne from 1688. He was also Prince-Bishop of Liège, and Bishop of Regensburg, of Freising and of Hildesheim.
In 1688 the Archiepiscopal See of Cologne was vacant, the King of France supported one candidate the Emperor wanted the 17 year old Clemens, as neither received the required number of votes the Pope made the selection & picked Clements. This so enraged Louis XIV that he seized the papal territory of Avignon & imprisoned the papal nuncio.
When the war of the Spanish succession began in 1701 Clemens tried to remain neutral but the Emperor forced him to pick a side, he chose France. The war started badly for Austria but the tide turned & by 1702 Clemens had to flee Bonn & seek refuge in France, he was to remain there till 1714. He returned first to Liege in 1714 but it was not till 25 February 1715 that he made his solemn entry into Bonn(after Dutch troops were finally evacuated from the city) and this is the medal that was made for that occasion. It was produced in gold , silver & copper. I love the meditating crowned lion. -
HMS Terror was a bomb vessel, these were ships that were purpose built to fire heavy mortars(which fired upwards in an arc and unlike cannons were not on wheels) for bombardment of coastal defenses etc and therefore were very strongly built to withstand the downward pressure. That was the reason these bombs were used for arctic & antarctic expeditions as they were better equipped to withstand the huge pressures exerted by ice.
It was a navy tradition to name these bombs vessels after volcanoes,for obvious reasons, but if no name was available then "Terror" was a good option, so good in fact that a volcano was named Terror after the ship
In the USA's anthem " And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air" the bombs bursting were fired by bomb vessels.
She was trapped in open sea ice and was at one time lifted 40 ft up the side of a cliff, her keel was broken etc and, as you can see by the picture in the above post, almost capsized. ""The ice that bore us was ascertained to be seventy feet thick" Captain Back in a letter. The ship was carried by the ice wherever the winds & tides took the ice floe she was trapped in, as other ice was forced under the ice she was trapped in she was lifted higher & higher. When the spring thaw came the ice melted and eventually she broken free but there was a huge amount of ice one side of the ship & none on the other, hence the very dangerous list. -
I guess we should call this "Ian's Armada Collection"
any idea what this is
in World Coin Forum
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Apparently the Arms in the lozenge are Isabel's, single women had there family arms in a lozenge. Though Philip & Isabel married in 1559, her personal arms, still in a lozenge, were used on this token.