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Fauver: Geo III-1b, 1801 19.5mm brass R-6.

Batty 2083.

Would need pictures of your example to give an opinion.

Here is my bronze example this is a restrike, the ponticon is so weakly struck so cannot tell what it is but the colour is the old chocolate patination so I assume circa 1845.

The one on the link you posted is way over priced, in my opinion.

Wow! Great sleuthing! I assume the denticles and rim would be a separate part fitted to the main die?

I do not know, but I noticed the reference was from Puddester, = "British India Historical Medals by R.P. Puddester" so that would be the place to look for any other medals using the same bust & script type, where there is perhaps the perfect match.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEDALS-OF-BRITISH-INDIA-VOL-1-BY-ROBERT-P-PUDDESTER-/230464995423

http://www.amazon.co.uk/British-India-Historical-Medals-Puddester/dp/095113082X

Got it!!! http://www.gold-stater.com/modern-coins.html astounding find, congratulations, glad to have been of help

The gothic script is rotated slightly so your die was not actually used to strike this medal but was probably part of the overall process, or there is another obscure Indian Victoria medal out there.

This appears to be the identical bust, INDIAN MEDALS. Jubbulpore Exhibition, Bronze Medal, 1866, by W Wyon, bust of Queen Victoria to left, rev female figure of Industry laureates a woman standing before her, 43mm.

I suspect that your die was never actually used but the bust was. The English Wyon medals used the Latin REGINA, but some of the Indian medals used QUEEN.

I suggest that you send images to the British Museum. Good luck, quite an astounding find.

Just to make it easier to compare,

This is not listed in BHM, there is only one smaller medal that has VICTORIA QUEEN and she is bare headed & the inscription is not gothic , and the military medals all seem to use REGINA not QUEEN.

One on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VATICAN-MEDAL-Ioannes-Pavlvs-II-Pont-Max-/301277471819

A very rough & ready Photoshop image(prompted by a comment of Figleaf on another forum), by rotating the edge lettering relative to the central image it looks so much better.

This appears to be another piece by the same unknown engraver, after having a "dry lunch", also unlisted and unfortunately not mine

http://http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces63534.html

http://tokencatalog.com/token_record_forms.php?action=DisplayTokenRecord&td_id=394470&inventory_id=397281&attribution_id=404624&td_create_uid=2933

The rarity rating in Brown's British Historical Medals ranges from;

CC = very common

C = common

N = normal

R = rare

RR = very rare

RRR = extremely rare

RRRR = highest rarity

He himself assigns no exact numbers to the ratings, but it is assumed RRRR. is unique to 9, RRR. 10-20 etc. This might appear to be out of line with Norway's RRR. 2-3 but allowance must be made for population difference, approx 5 million to England's 53 million.

Wow what year could it be from?

It was struck in 1820 the time of what is known as "The Trial of Queen Caroline"

As soon as George IV became king in 1820, Caroline immediately returned to England to claim her place as Queen of England. Outraged, and seeking a divorce, George pressured Parliament to prepare a bill to strip Caroline of her title and end the marriage by Act of Parliament. A divorce through the ecclesiastical courts was difficult for the King given his own embarrassingly scandalous love life, and the bill in Parliament was considered the most expedient mode of attaining a divorce. The passage of the bill through Parliament became a spectacular cause celebre.

This example has obviously had a pampered life.

You think so? Cool find! Any other references or folks you will reach out to to verify a population (or lack therof)

No other reference that I know of. Perhaps someone will read this post and be able to supply some info.

I spotted the spelling mistake on the rear & could not find any reference on-line, so I brought it and it was not till I looked at it later did I realize the George/William error, so that was a very pleasant surprise

After reviewing the original post,

This appears to be #523, not #525, and Feuardent seems to have made a mistake, re the signature, giving it as same(L.G.L.). gravee#191, var

As you can see it is a head and is signed C L. For #525 he states head and gives gravee#190 which is a armoured bust and signed L. G. L. not C. L.!

Perhaps the descriptions are right but the images 191 & 190 have been switched positions by mistake?

For #525 he states head and gives gravee#190 var. which is a armoured bust and signed L. G. L. not C. L.!

HELP

It purports to be a medieval equestrian seal or sigillvm, see some examples here https://www.google.com/search?q=medieval+seal&espv=2&biw=1517&bih=714&tbm=isch&imgil=F__oWuqxpC-wOM%253A%253BNrjucZ8WRDgC5M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Faclerkofoxford.blogspot.com%25252F2011%25252F08%25252Fmedieval-seal-inscriptions.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=F__oWuqxpC-wOM%253A%252CNrjucZ8WRDgC5M%252C_&usg=__v1Kd8kwTEKcskwp-Lex3wovU9qk%3D&dpr=0.9&ved=0CCgQyjdqFQoTCPz3qZrzjcYCFRIQkgodVA4Mew&ei=_MZ8VfyJH5KgyATUnLDYBw#tbm=isch&q=equestrian+seal+sigillvm they were used to sign & seal a document or letter by pressing them into wax. Hence the ring or seal image was reversed so as the wax imprint was the correct orientation.

I am no expert on these, hence the reluctance to post a reply, but I suspect it is just a copy, I can make out PHILI by the forelegs. Hope I am wrong

EDIT. You might find this site of interest http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/s/seals.htm

This is a most unusual find, it is not listed in BHM or Battys , thought

well apart from, "UNION HIS THE BOND OF PEACE" mistake on the reverse and WR/IV under the crown, the obverse with the inscription "WILLIAM IV KING OF GREAT BRITAIN" encircles an engraved image of George IV, not William.

It is 26mm white metal and might just be unique, perhaps the engraver had a liquid lunch.

H.M.G.M. QUEEN CAROLINE

GOD /PROTECTS / THE / QUEEN

BHM# 1029 by ? T. Kettle

AE RRR. Br. RRR. 26mm.

Just a very nice example!

Feuardent 916 Bust, no signature, gravee # 189

Happy Birthday Clive

Great addition to your collection Ian

Hi, you will find there is always someone happy to help here.....if we can

It is a silver Mexican(Spanish) 1821 reales, the denomination, 4 or 8, is indicated by size & weight. Check this link http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/Mexico_1821-Mo_JJ_4_reales

http://www.cgbfr.de/rouyer-viii-jetons-classes-par-types-jeton-de-compte-aux-quatre-lys-dans-un-losange,fjt_090006,a.html

Pat

That is a beauty too good to be in "cheap but fun".

This is a variant obverse of mine, have not seen another one perhaps because of what appears to be signs of a die crack right across it.

My guess is a fantasy piece. Though it is signed under the bust it is impossible to read it, that might have helpful.

Obviously the auction house has no reference or info on what it is but they could have, at least, shown the signature.

Happy Birthday