STEVE MOULDING

Hello. I'm currently looking for numismatic auction catalogs for the period 1900-1944 from any of the following German firms : Robert Ball Adolph Cahn Frankfurter Munzhandlung Ludwig Grabow Adolph Hess Otto Helbing Joseph Hamburger Leo Hamburger Jacob Hirsch Rudolf Kube Eugen Merzbacher Hans Meuss Edmund Rappaport A. Riechmann HS Rosenberg Sally Rosenberg Schott-Wallerstein Felix Schlessinger Waldemar Wruck Not looking for expensive bound versions. Condition and subject matter is not overly important, though plates, if available, should be complete. Prices Realized lists for the same period are also wanted, even if the catalog is not available. Finally, auction catalogs issued without plates and periodic Lager-Katalogs (price lists) are also considered, though are less important to me. Please send a PM with details and asking price. Thank you Steve Moulding

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Last page of what now? My Ilyin & Tolstoi (1910) shows no such correction

My 1799EM polushka is one of the rarest coins in my collection . That was bought years ago, before they started digging up rotten examples out of the ground in Russia (and they seem to be finding everything these days). Yes, Paul copper is a very difficult series for such a few short years. There are rare variants that I don't have (eg denga-sized cipher on a polushka).

Look for stylistic differences, in the lettering for example. Go to m-dv.ru. They have 30 or more images from sale of the real thing. You should be able to see several problems with the eBay coin. That would be my strongest general advice. Add to that your knowledge about the weak strikes and intuition about artificial toning, the sellers reputation, etc and you'll have a good basis for flagging any coin as suspect.

That 1757 5K with Catherine cipher springs to mind

Don't know (yet) but it seems it was done early, as I've already said.

Hardly high resolution but this is a closer look at the catalog image taken from a scan I made years ago. It may scan at higher resolution, but I doubt it.

As anything and everything is now fake, have they concluded the same for all that tea in Markov's upcoming auction?

Different looking die (MiM36/2006)

Same die as Berlin

If it is the Novodels that were seen in 1850s collections and were listed in an 1833 table, this means they weren't cooked up in the late 1870s for some industrial fair or for a late-period grand duke. I have an image of another novodel (russian auction) from the exact same die as the Berlin coin. An apparently different-die Novodel coin (also out of russia) shows an under-8 but the job is botched and I also dont see the die cracks seen in the Berlin example. Will try to post

Chaudoir (1837) #1728. Missing in Lyubomudrov (1897) Hmmm...Ilyin and Tolstoi (1910) list 1781 CPM 5K Novodel (5 Roubles) (Edge-0) 1781 CPM 5K Original (10 Roubles) (Edge-5) in the text, but show both as Novodels in the tables in the same book. Their 'original' symbol may be a typo as Novodels I've seen have edge 5.

From the State Museum in Berlin

Yes. Schubert (Page 211) lists it as 780.f, and cites the Schubert, Krug and Troszczinski collections as having one. May be the novodel, can't tell. BTW I have some very nice images of the Novodel. Clearly the last digit used to be an 8. Will try to post.

Interesting. The Pansner Tables from 1833 show a 1781 CPM 5K, but it doesn't say if Pansner had seen an early novodel or something that looked original. Evidently, something existed at that time! Let's see if Schubert has anything to add...

Good job Sigi! Same coin. Indeed, it did not sell in Gorny 109. From the images and the fact that it didn't sell after buyers got to see it first hand means I'd say altered date with 99.9% probability.

$150?

Well...my Gorny's from that time are all buried in storage beneath crates of other catalogs which keep arriving and piling up I'd guess Sale 27, from 1984, but I could be wrong. If anyone has a copy handy, please take a look.

I've seen this 1781 before...years ago....an old Gorny Sale I think. The last digit in the example from that catalog looked altered. I'll see if I have images to see if it's the same coin.

That would be the Smithsonian in Washington DC, home of Grand Duke Georgii Mikhailovich's copper collection and more. For example http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/article/2009/11/20091124175845fjreffahcs0.5918848.html#axzz2ENXZxWwO

The well-known die-cracked polushka novodel. You see one at least once a year at auction.

All their catalogues are available online here: https://www.sincona....cesrealized.asp

Agreed

Lettering, at least, looks close to others sold at auction http://www.mcsearch.info/search.html?search=1654+novodel#0