bpmurphy Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hello, I'm new to this Forum and was curious if anyone on here collected Unofficial Farthings or other English tokens. Looking forward to reading the old posts. Barry Murphy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagerap Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Welcome Barry. Yes there are quite a few of us with a token habit. That's a nice grouping of farthings you have, makes me realise how few I own of that size. From memory I have Sparrow, Albert Smith and possibly 2 or 3 Norwich farthings. I'll see what I can dig out. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hi Barry, welcome to the Forum I have an odd few scattered over the 17th to 19th centuries. They are hard to find in my postings as I do not usually use "farthing" in my posts, or in my own archives. I use medal or token as appropriate, Kettle's pieces can often be described as either or both Here is one that is listed as a fathing in D&H, but to me it is a commemorative medal, as I use Brown's BHM as a reference for my English medals, if I collected mainly tokens I would probably have used D&H and listed it as a farthing! This is BHM#515 14mm AE by Kettle, the first image is of my example(unlisted in AE) struck from an unfinished die. Thanks to Philip Atwood & the British Museum for the pictures of their 2 examples of this obverse, which show the further work done to the die with copy/reducing lines. The cheeks have been further engraved & the rear of what appeared to be part of the neck morphies into the lower part of the ribbon. There is also more detail in the hair & the upper part of the ribbon. Also the missing parts of the 'E's have been added. In the far right example the pronounced seperation between cheek, jaw & chin has been totally lost. Oh, and the copy/reducing lines have disappeared! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottO Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 there are quite a few differant 17th century ones as well. do have this error newton one, i believe it is an error rather then post mint due to wear patterns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmurphy Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Thanks for the replies. I should have been more specific and said "19th Century English tokens". I am well aware of the Conders and medals on here. I don't see a lot of discussion on 19th century items. I collect a lot of things. Here is a farthing size William Till token in silver, the only one I've ever seen. Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmurphy Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 ... and a few of my medalets. Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmurphy Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Need to figure out how to get full size photos to show and not just the thumbs. Sorry. Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Thanks for the replies. I should have been more specific and said "19th Century English tokens". I am well aware of the Conders and medals on here. I don't see a lot of discussion on 19th century items. I collect a lot of things. Here is a farthing size William Till token in silver, the only one I've ever seen. Barry I love the coin dealer tokens. An exceptional piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 I collect only the 17th century farthings and halves myself. I have a few dozen, but my favourite is from a rat catcher in Wiltshire: Of the 20.000 or so token issuers during that time, this is the only known token issued by a rat catcher. Seems like a pretty pedestrian trade, but was fairly important during that era - rats of course spread the plagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 this is the only known token issued by a rat catcher. Seems like a pretty pedestrian trade, but was fairly important during that era - rats of course spread the plagues. I think they probably had to run, sometimes great token Scottishmoney please excuse my sense of humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottO Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 i got a couple of those 17th century tokens. i do collect farthings though, but not really aimed in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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