Corwin Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I was wondering what you guys thought about appraisal of this coin It is a 1 Rouble 1913 with XF details. ~Corwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Something like $1000, probably a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopeikin Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 hmmmm..... let me guess. around $1250? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 with those nicks i thought it less than a thousand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Kopeikin's "guess" is right on. It sold for $1273 on Ebay. Seems the coin was harshly cleaned plus all those edge nicks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Kopeikin's "guess" is right on. It sold for $1273 on Ebay. Seems the coin was harshly cleaned plus all those edge nicks... Hehe.. That was my sale. I was wondering about forums opinion around this coin because i have sold it twice (same coin) on eBay now for the last month.. but both times the buyers have not wanted to pay (did not have money to pay) and i have either relisted it or tried to sell it through second chance offer. It is not cleaned at all and have very nice details, but its rather my bad experience taking pictures. Photos on eBay are the same as shown here, were the first photo is taken with blitz (therefore the "glossy/cleaned" effect) Does anyone have any suggestion to how i can ensure a sale or receiving payment from the highest bidders? I know that when you are winning a auction you are committed to buy the item, but what to do when the buyer claims he don't have money? I will probably wait some time now before i relist it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopeikin Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hehe.. That was my sale. I was wondering about forums opinion around this coin because i have sold it twice (same coin) on eBay now for the last month.. but both times the buyers have not wanted to pay (did not have money to pay) and i have either relisted it or tried to sell it through second chance offer. It is not cleaned at all and have very nice details, but its rather my bad experience taking pictures. Photos on eBay are the same as shown here, were the first photo is taken with blitz (therefore the "glossy/cleaned" effect) Does anyone have any suggestion to how i can ensure a sale or receiving payment from the highest bidders? I know that when you are winning a auction you are committed to buy the item, but what to do when the buyer claims he don't have money? I will probably wait some time now before i relist it. Are you saying after 1 day since end of auction buyer already told you they do not want to pay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I always require payment within 5 days.. First time sold (May 22.) I had to cancel the transaction after approximately 10 days. No given reason from buyer except problems with funds and Paypal and that he was not able to pay for it at that time, and that if i wanted we could cancel. We canceled and the buyer was blocked after this. Tried to sell with second chance offer to next highest bidder (1 day offer) but did not sell. I relisted it 16th of June and it sold 7 days later on the 23th for 1273$. (50$ less) Got message from buyer yesterday: - "Today I was check my bank account and I have no enough money.Therefore I would like to cancel this deal. Really sorry!!! " Again i offered second chance to next highest bidder but did not sell when it ended 3-4 hours ago. I have sold for many years on eBay, but have never been having so much problem with the same item. Does anyone have any suggestion to how sellers can assure a safe sale? I have of course blocked both buyers and told them never to bid on anything they do not intend to buy, but what other insurance is there really for the sellers? My opinion is that eBay is getting more and more the buyers market and that they are given the sellers bad privileges (not possible to write bad feedback etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopeikin Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Corwin, with current eBay policy we as sellers can do nothing against what you experiencing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I do not know the details, but I know you can open a case against bidders who do not pay. Ebay will go after them, not sure how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Coincidentally a fake 1913 rouble was sold around the same time, I hope that seller has trouble collecting the money: http://www.ebay.com/itm/160829431332 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I know it is possible to open a case after 5 days or so, but that is only helping to get back the insertion fee after eBay have reviewed the case, or if the buyer does not reply to messages. I think i will have to write a letter to eBay about this and see what they have to say. Like said earlier eBay states (like every other auction) that when you are bidding you are committing to buy the item, so i wonder what kind of solutions they have for this kind of problems.. To sad with people selling counterfeit, eBay have a strict policy about this (new policy update last month where no counterfeit is allowed at all, even if stated as fake!), but it is of course not possible to be aware 100% of the time. The seller you've linked to also have negative feedback for selling a fake 1756 gold ruble some days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I guess you can't do much, maybe you'll have better luck on next listing - 3rd time's the charm! But presumably if the buyer backs out of too many deals: "Excessive unpaid items on a buyer's account may result in range of actions, including limits or loss of buying privileges." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I guess you can't do much, maybe you'll have better luck on next listing - 3rd time's the charm! But presumably if the buyer backs out of too many deals: "Excessive unpaid items on a buyer's account may result in range of actions, including limits or loss of buying privileges." I took this problem to eBay customer service and i was explained the same (and that this is a ongoing problem for many sellers). That the only insurance seller have is to use this Unpaid Item assistant. Like you said, if a buyer got some/more of these, eBay looks into their account and possibly block them out or suspend their buying privileges if this is a continuous problem. I was suggested to re-list the coin for the third time, and use this assistant if the problem happens again. The ruble was re-listed today.. This time with a more excessive terms section on top. Like you said 3rd time's the charm, so let's hope it works out this time Listing can be seen here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300741155803#ht_4815wt_1139 Thanks for advice and help! ~ Corwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 guys, i do not know how so much can be paid for this ruble, in my opinion it is not even gradable if submitted to grading company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 guys, i do not know how so much can be paid for this ruble, in my opinion it is not even gradable if submitted to grading company What do you base that on? It is vf/xf and have nice details.. the pictures may not be so very accurate because of the light, Yes, it does have the nicks you mentioned earlier, but still very gradable. Others with VF-XF details have been sold for 2000-3500 dollar the past year. (this one sold twice for 1100-1250) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 the picture is OK ! gradable but not by either major grading companies this particular ruble has too many defects for one single coin so-said "problem free coin" would probably bring much more but not this one good luck with your sale, i just wanted to say what i already said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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