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can you help me identify this coin


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both of your yefimoks look too me as fakes from the pictures, if you can make better pictures, so then and opinion can be better, so far from you blurry pics hard to say what it is but seems to me fakes

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when I get good photocamera I will post better quality picture. I found 3 coins in one place, so I fink it cannot be fakes. My search shows they can cost from couple from couple thousand dollars till hundred thousand dollars, that why I try to get as much information as I can.



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from new pics, i can say that saxony taler of johan georg I and russian counterstamp looks genuine to me

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