RW Julian Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 A bad fake: http://cgi.ebay.com/1823-ALEXANDER-1-RUSSI...1QQcmdZViewItem The seller also has a poltina of Catherine I which does not look good. The seller has been notified about the 1823 piece. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCO Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 There is more to it. Someone already spent $999. Do you like the coin? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A%3AIT&rd=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 A bad fake: http://cgi.ebay.com/1823-ALEXANDER-1-RUSSI...1QQcmdZViewItem The seller also has a poltina of Catherine I which does not look good. The seller has been notified about the 1823 piece. RWJ Interesting stuff ... his images are all in a publicly accessible directory here: His pictures Not many of them are of coins, though. Looks more like an "odds & ends" antique dealer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 There is more to it. Someone already spent $999. Do you like the coin? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A%3AIT&rd=1 Uncertain, but it is interesting that he calls the 1724 rouble an "original" while the 1823 is not so marked. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 A bad fake: http://cgi.ebay.com/1823-ALEXANDER-1-RUSSI...1QQcmdZViewItem The seller also has a poltina of Catherine I which does not look good. The seller has been notified about the 1823 piece. RWJ The seller has posted the SAME coin again for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/1823-ALEXANDER-1-RUSSI...1QQcmdZViewItem The first sale (in September) resulted in feedback but now we see the identical coin offered once more. This is interesting in view of the fact that all sales are "final." RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted November 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 The seller has posted the SAME coin again for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/1823-ALEXANDER-1-RUSSI...1QQcmdZViewItem The first sale (in September) resulted in feedback but now we see the identical coin offered once more. This is interesting in view of the fact that all sales are "final." RWJ I missed another sale of this SAME coin by the SAME seller: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=330047681229 How many times can you sell the same fake coin? RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 How many times can you sell the same fake coin? As many times as you can find a naive buyer? Until the counterfeit dies in your basement shatter from use? Until the cows come home? As long as you pay your ebay fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted November 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 As many times as you can find a naive buyer? Until the counterfeit dies in your basement shatter from use? Until the cows come home? As long as you pay your ebay fees? This is not quite the case. Both of the previous 'buyers' are possibly shills since this is the exact same coin and not just another piece from the same counterfeit dies. It appears that the seller was trying to entice bids with shills but this did not work. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 This is not quite the case. Both of the previous 'buyers' are possibly shills since this is the exact same coin and not just another piece from the same counterfeit dies. It appears that the seller was trying to entice bids with shills but this did not work. RWJ I assumed the seller was simply re-using the same stock photos to sell multiple examples of the same fake without considering that the buyers might be shills. But your suggested scenario seems more likely to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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