bobh Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 The date seems too large, and the shape of the lettering is funny: LINK to eBay auction What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 The date seems too large, and the shape of the lettering is funny: LINK to eBay auction What do you think? This one is OK. So is 1726 5 kop. You are too suspicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisenish Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 This is a completely normal coin, Bob, guaranteed genuine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 This one is OK. So is 1726 5 kop. You are too suspicious Coin is fine. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted September 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Coin is fine. Steve Thank you for all of the replies. Until now, I haven't seriously collected these minor coppers (except for some pyataks of the period of Catherine II). But I am very interested in the meantime! Someone in this forum (can't remember who it was) said that although it is possible to spot a fake coin from the image alone, it is not possible to guarantee that a coin is genuine just going by a picture. I agree, and I think this should be obvious to most people who collect coins. I will therefore interpret the remarks given to mean that there is nothing in the pictures which might imply that the coin is not genuine. However, I find it very difficult to draw my own conclusions with these earlier (pre-1800) coins going by the images in the references at my disposal. At present, I have Uzdenikov, Bitkin, and Brekke for copper coins. Brekke does mention in the foreword to his book that anyone seriously interested in collecting varieties of earlier dates will need to have the Ilyin reference as well, because there are just too many varieties. Of course, there is no substitute for the experience and perusal of many real coins, and I am certain that those of you who have responded affirmatively here do have that experience. So I would like to ask: what additional references, which are readily available, are necessary for collecting Russian copper coins of the 18th century? If I can find the Ilyin work and buy it, how far will this take me over and beyond Uzdenikov, Bitkin et al. which I already have? I can read Russian fairly well, so the language isn't much of a problem. Thanks for your kind support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 18th Century Cooper References I use: Brekke + supplement + Brekke sale (Worldwide), Bitkin 2, Ilyin, Uzdenikov, 1974 French reprint of Corpus. You should also check Steve Moulding's website for information on copper coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timofei Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 18th Century Cooper References I use: Brekke + supplement + Brekke sale (Worldwide), Bitkin 2, Ilyin, Uzdenikov, 1974 French reprint of Corpus. You should also check Steve Moulding's website for information on copper coins. In addition: M.Diakov 6 volume catalog is a must if you need to look at good quality pictures. The best color photos of Russian 18 cent. copper you will definitely find in the Ekaterina\MiM 31st auction catalog which is entirely dedicated to this century. I think you can find it with David (eBay nick - valery&valeria), probably Dm.Markov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 In addition: M.Diakov 6 volume catalog is a must if you need to look at good quality pictures. The best color photos of Russian 18 cent. copper you will definitely find in the Ekaterina\MiM 31st auction catalog which is entirely dedicated to this century. I think you can find it with David (eBay nick - valery&valeria), probably Dm.Markov. 1. Diakov is nice -- every year is illustrated, but it is hard to find for a reasonable amount. Especially Peter I volume, which is simply hard to find. I was offered the whole set for about $720. I think it is too much. 2. David (valeriavaleria) is not D.Markov :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timofei Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 2. David (valeriavaleria) is not D.Markov :-) Sure. I meant both have good stock of books in US, so the title I mentioned should be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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