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  4. 1796 Denga Novodel (?)

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    Wait a minute, it may be a rope! It doesn't say in the description, I only have the pictures to go by... I see what you see... What does it look to you? My first impression was ||||||, but rope may look like this as well, when you don't see the edge.... I feel a bit of a fool now... :swoon: Ok, let's make it a proper roped Novodel. What do you think it will be worth?

     

    There are actually two kinds of roped edges (numbering of the edge types is standard):

    #1 = ////////////////

    #6 = \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

    Regardless of which side of the coin is up, the orientation of these marks stays the same (perhaps hard to believe unless you try it).

     

    Then there is the reeded edge:

    #3 = |||||||||||||||

     

    And then there is the net-like edge:

    #5 = xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

     

    Also, there are other kinds of edges, some of which were used only for certain types.

     

    Every Russian numismatic reference I have seen lists these edges along with illustrations, so maybe you need to buy a book? ;)

  6. eBay watch

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    I have a similar piece, but only one side. It has glue on the other side, so was probably some kind of exhibition piece. I wonder if one from Lanz is similar in make.

     

    That's exactly what the description says (in German):

    "Zinnabschlag von 1 Rubel 2 Dokumentenabschläge zusammengeklebt"

     

    = Tin copy of 1 rouble, 2 exhibition pieces glued together. :)

  9. eBay watch

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    1726 Novodel, or fake?

     

     

    Dealer says it is Bitkin 357, but the Gorny & Mosch auction description, which is visible in the fourth picture, says "Vgl. Bitkin 357". Vgl. means "vergleichbar mit", or "similar to" Bitkin 357. Any time this is stated in an auction, it almost always means that the item is a modern novodel (=fake). They have to state that in order to cover their buttocks.

     

    It also has traces of silver plating on it, according to the Gorny auction description. Now why would anyone want to silverplate a rare unique plate coin (unless it wasn't genuine)? :hysterical:

  11. Rouble 1897 - Strange signs on edge

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    Why are these "errors" occur only on rubles of the 1897 (those of 1898 and 1899 seem to be exempt from this problem)?

     

    The 1897 roubles tend to have either small stars or larger stars. The "pattern" roubles almost always have small (but broken) stars; however, sometimes there are large broken stars. Here is mine (bought for about €30 on eBay several years ago):

     

    Ruble_1897_two_stars_edge.sized.jpg

     

    If we assume that these were the result of mint errors, then I would think that they improved the edging devices so that coins of the later years would not be affected. I also think that the devices with smaller stars were probably more delicate and therefore broke more easily.

     

    Why a scholar respected and valid as Bitkin fell into this trap?

     

    Uzdenikov also lists them in his catalog. Severin, however, did not. I have no idea where Uzdenikov got his reference for them. R.W. Julian also lists them in his 1993 reference work on Russian silver coinage; presumably, Bitkin took these as a guideline. Almost always, when illustrations of the pattern edge appear, they are taken from Uzdenikov's catalog. But they don't really look anything like that!

     

    I saw in person (in Basel) the 1897 Brussels pattern coin sold in Dmitry Markov's New York Sale in 2007. The edge looked very much like your coin!

  13. Rouble 1897 - Strange signs on edge

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    Good evening to everybody,

    I would like to have an opinion from experienced people about the signs that appear on the edge of a ruble of Nicholas II.

    Rouble in question is dated 1897. It's condition is around Very Fine.

    Thanks in advance to all those acting

    Davide

     

    <img src=http://www.pchs.it/i...ble1897edge.JPG>

     

    According to most references, this is the so-called Brussels pattern rouble. Here are some examples; the one sold in the F.R. Künker auction in 2011 also has a picture of the edge:

    http://www.m-dv.ru/catalog/id,2193/prohod.html

     

    The recently published reference work by Kazakov, however, states that there were actually no pattern roubles, but merely worn-out and broken edge lettering devices which produce the marks you have on your coin. He's probably right because most of the time, pattern coins are found in extremely high grade. However, most of the so-called Brussels pattern roubles have only been found in condition of F or VF. If they were indeed patterns, they all must have circulated widely.

     

    Of course, people continue to pay a lot of money for these!

  14. Axial lighting

    in Numismatic Photography Forum

    Posted

    I've had good luck with microscope slides for axial lighting of cents. I take a small piece of rigid black foam and cut a 45-deg angle in it, then tape the slide to the foam. You need to make sure you put a non-reflective black surface behind the reflector to avoid having it re-reflect up to the sensor...Ray

     

    What a good idea to use the foam support ... thanks! :art:

     

    I've been looking around online for laboratory / microscope slildes, but most seem to be no wider than an inch or so. When I have some more time, I'll go to one of the laboratory supply stores here in Zurich to see if they have something a little wider. Some of my coins are 50mm in diameter (2 inches), and to get a good picture of those, you'd need a piece of glass that was at least twice that size in diameter -- and not too thick because that will have a negative influence on the image quality.

  16. 10 roubles 1909 gold

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    NO! I'm trying to win the auction:)

     

    Good luck! :bhyper:

     

    It is a nice one ... by now, the bid is over $1,000 already (833 Euros). Of course, you realize that by posting this message, you are attracting MORE bidders to the auction? If you are actively bidding on something, that is not the best way to keep the price down!

  17. 10 roubles 1909 gold

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    Hey Bobh, did you see my post on the coin photography forum? I was wondering what you ended up using for glass in your axial setup.... any luck?

     

    ill check back over there for your reply... :bunny:

     

    Sorry I missed your post ... I answered it now (over in the photography forum)!

     

    Happy T-Day, BTW! little-turkey.gif

  18. Axial lighting

    in Numismatic Photography Forum

    Posted

    Bobh, did you find an acceptable piece of glass? I want to give Axial lighting a try. How do you support the glass?

     

    Im using a Nikon D7000 on a tripod pointed down, with my coins sitting on a table next to the tripod.

    Sorry I missed your post, Josh ... guess I should start following this forum again!

     

    I didn't pursue the matter any further yet; just haven't had time to look for other glass plates, or do much in the way of coin photography at all, for that matter.

     

    I support the glass by putting two stacks of books with a gap in between. The glass rests on the books at the left and right edges, and the coin is in the middle. You need to put something at the base of the glass to keep it from slipping, obviously ... taping it to the table is one way, or you can tape a pencil onto the table and rest the glass on that (i.e. on the table but up against the pencil).

     

    I found that the trick is to keep everything black (black books, etc.) to avoid any spurious reflections. I had to drape some black material over the camera tripod because I was getting relections of that, too.

     

    It's fun! :)

  20. Examples of the Best Looking Eagles on Russian Imperial Coins from Your Collection

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    Bobh - I am stunned... speechless... and my hat is in my hands... before I throw it in the air with excitement! :)

     

    Thanks! :art:

    These were all made from new dies and never circulated, so most of the time they are in really nice condition. Even so, this one picked up a little scratch somewhere during the 150+ years of its existence. This one was offered on two separate occasions for auction by Jim Elmen's WWCC. I bought it on eBay about 5 years ago, believe it or not! :shock:

  22. Book about Russian Platinum coinage

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    hello again.

    i know it is long time ago that i was here.

    in the meanwhile, the project "book about platinum coins" is still in progress.

    it will be bilingual german and english.

     

    there was more time nessesary than i thought for research and reading and collect all the information.

    but now, the german part is coming to an end. then will the translation follow as soon as possible.

     

    the book/catalog will contain only all known platinum coins, struck between around 1750 and 1899.

    also included are all known contemporary counterfeits of goldcoins, struck in platinum (spain, england, france, italy, etc), the russian platinum roubles, patterns and medals. also all known restrikes of historic coins (this are not too many).

    some of the coins and medals/patterns are only to find in museums, today.

     

    i hope, coming to an end someday.

    Fascinating... :art: ... Thanks for the update! (PS - please send me a personal message if you need help with any translations.)

     

    BTW ... your original post mentioned only Russian platinum coinage. I wonder what influenced the decision to expand to other countries (and counterfeits)? Pretty big field! Considering how difficult just the Russian numismatic area is in platinum, I hope that enough consideration is given to Russian platinum fakes ... these are sometimes very hard to identify.

  23. 1772 Para: opinions?

    in Russian Coin Forums

    Posted

    No one has responded yet over in the fakes forum, so I thought I would ask here. Here is the link to the original thread:

     

    http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php?/topic/32896-opinions-on-this-1772-para-russia-ekat-ii-coinage-for-moldavia/page__view__findpost__p__573542

     

    Considering how high the one in the Sincona auction went, I think someone probably paid $400 for a fake. But I'm not certain. If it is a fake, it is very cleverly done.

  24. Opinions on this 1772 Para (Russia - Ekat. II, coinage for Moldavia)

    in Fake Coin Forums

    Posted

    Original or fake?

     

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320996383479

     

    The lettering of the legend on the reverse looks a little different than the pictures in the recent Sincona auction (lot 541 which went for CHF 19,000):

     

    http://www.m-dv.ru/monety-rossii-1700-1917/prohod,89302/coins,4190/type,6177/auction,83/date,2012-10-09/lot,541/images-prohod.html

     

    I'd say it was a very clever fake, but I'm no expert on this type.

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