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This wouldn't have been so bad if you hadn't identified one of exactly the same type for me some months ago. Thanks Frank. Eye check time is upon me.

Bob

Thanks for that, it seems that I already possess at least one Mainwaring. The one illustrated above as it happens, unfortunately made into a rather fine brooch. Pics to follow (when I find it)

This is my first Mainwaring medal. I'll be on the lookout for more.

This looks to be a common type, but I can't pin it down:

The thing is that cataloque you are using is a little bit ...let's say.. strange

This is the point I was trying to make, if the mintages listed are accurate; why such a price uplift? SCWC is taken as the pricing bible by a large percentage of the world's collectors, but there are so many instances being reported of wildly inaccurate pricing.

This is what I get from SCWC:

Y# 10.2 2 KOPEKS

Copper

Date Mintage F VF XF Unc

1867ЕМ 150,000 12.00 25.00 50.00 100

1868ЕМ 18,200,000 3.00 7.00 15.00 30.00

1869ЕМ 22,174,000 3.00 7.00 15.00 30.00

1870ЕМ 21,884,000 3.00 7.00 15.00 30.00

1871ЕМ 7,058,000 3.00 7.00 15.00 30.00

1872ЕМ 12,734,000 12.00 25.00 50.00 100.

1873ЕМ 7,364,000 3.00 7.00 15.00 30.00

1874ЕМ 8,551,000 3.00 7.00 15.00 30.00

1875ЕМ 10,451,000 3.00 7.00 15.00 30.00

1876ЕМ 2,905,000 4.00 8.00 18.00 35.00

High mintage but also high prices. Seems to be bourne out by ebay asking prices. Few if any completed listings to verify this though.

I'm only just starting to get into Russians and picking up odd pieces when they're cheap, trying to learn. Today I found a 2 Kopek 1872 EM, Y# 10.1, judging by the sellers picture condition is F. Checking Krause, they appear to command higher prices than other coins in that series despite having much larger mintages.

Has the population been artificially reduced, by a recall or melt or whatever?

This may interest some. From:

The E-Sylum

An electronic publication of the Numismatic Bibliomania Society.

NEW PERIODICAL: JOURNAL OF NUMISMATIC RESEARCH

Numismatic researcher and author Roger Burdette has debuted the first issue of the Journal of Numismatic Research. This 48-page first issue features two articles about the technology used in producing coins in the US Mints.

PAGE 23 -

VICTOR JANVIER – PATENT FOR A MODEL REDUCING MACHINE, 1899

French and English - New translation by Margaux C. Thieme-Burdette

Among American numismatists Victor Janvier is known almost entirely for the model reducing machine of his invention that was installed in the Philadelphia Mint in 1906. The first test was in December when Barber and Morgan made hubs for a sample double eagle. In January 1907 the first reductions of Saint-Gaudens' double eagle models were made. The French patent, number 294123, was issued on November 8, 1899 and amended in February 24, 1902. This is the first publication of his patent and includes all documents remaining in the French patent office archive.

The PDF version of Journal of Numismatic Research (JNR) is available exclusively from Wizard Coin Supply’s web site. This issue has a cover price of $10 in electronic or printed versions. Wizard will also be the exclusive distributor of all printed and electronic editions of JNR, and of Roger's forthcoming book, United States Pattern and Experimental Pieces of WW-II.

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To order a copy, see: www.wizardcoinsupply.com/journal-of-numismatic-research/

Through this board I've learned a little about copy/reducing lines and seen some good examples, mainly through the sterling work of Constanius.

​It's taken a while, but I've finally got an example of my own.

A nice Lauer model half sov. Admittedly it's difficult to see the lines on this scan and it has been in my collection for a few years, but at last I can recognise it.

Thanks Pat

Pat, all day I've been desperate to get home as I couldn't read this on my phone. All I can say is Wow, just Wow!

This is a phenomenal piece of work, all the more so since you seem to have used pretty much the same search words as I but with a far more positive result.

Thank you Sir.

Bob

A compelling and well reasoned argument. In fact that degree of wear must indicate constant use over a long period.

It's difficult to tell, but my example seems to be copper and I'm judging it by the J/1 usage to be late C18th . I have other religious pieces from this period which formed part of a collection made in the 1900s and from these it's possible to guess what 100 odd years of veneration can do to soft metal. I like your idea more and more.

Thank you Pat. In the space of a day a lot has been discovered for which I must thank friends on another forum.

Firstly that you are correct with regard to John the Baptist. Parate via Domini, prepare ye the way of the Lord, Isiah's prophecy about the coming of Jesus, whose way is prepared by John.

The next discovery shows just how wide ranging our community is. A very erudite friend in Australia spotted that:

The second reference shows the piece stamped 292 in the Montague Guest collection, checking this # 1538 in his catalogue *there is no further information except # 1537 is the same but stamped 188.

A search for MG 1537 brought up the other image of # 188 in the BM.

http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/search_the_collection_database/search_object_image.aspx?objectId=77143&partId=1&searchText=Montague+Guest+1537&fromADBC=ad&toADBC=ad&orig=%2fresearch%2fsearch_the_collection_database.aspx&numPages=10&currentPage=1&asset_id=557208

This image shows the same use of J for 1 as my example, and that the BM has more than two examples.

This is getting very interesting.

* Which only goes to prove that there will always be another collector somewhere out there who has a copy of the book or catalogue you need.

This medal contains its own little puzzle. On the obverse at about seven o/clock can be seen J72 or probably 172, stamped into the medal.

Google only throws up two hits for this piece, and both belong to the British Museum. Leaving aside the fact that they can't decide if it's Jesus or John the Baptist, it is significant that both medals appear to bear a similar number, unfortunately only one has been photographed.

http://www.britishmu...e=4&numpages=10

http://www.britishmu...=77145&partid=1

I will be very surprised if anyone knows about the medal, but what about the numbers. Do they suggest anything to you? Are they some form of ticket?

This one's unusual in that the milling is on the faces of the medal, leaving the edge clean.

a much younger version of me wrote German?, on the envelope altough I can't see why.

Copper, 39 mm, 24.4 gr

Unusual bronze medal dating from the time of the British Mandate, 1920-1936.

Bronze, 38.5 mm, 24 gr.

Signed S. L.

Any ideas on the maker?

Again, that lovely original use of the word toys.

I was lucky today. Photobucket is so flaky lately, these took 12 minutes to upload.

Yes, edge inscribed.

Original file too big to upload which is a shame because this is a big medal.

and you get your certificate or degree. You can copy or scan it it and attach it to your C.V. (resume), but wouldn't you really prefer this?

Awared to Sidney Arthur Slater, Wool Dyeing 2nd prize.

The more I read of these wondrous objects, and indeed the more I buy, I can feel my desire for simple coins gradually waning. Only wish I'd started 30 years ago.

Very many thanks for the book lead Pat.

hiho, see me after school.

I'd really appreciate some help with this one, I think it's possibly a wedding jeton; although it does appear to show the Dauphin on the reverse.

Can't help you with book recommendation, except for BHM. I'd had mine for all of a month before we started packing for a house move. Nearly half a year later and I still can't find it!

However, I can offer you these:

http://maxentius.lamoneta.it/MedaglieNapoleoniche.htm

http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/bhm.htm

Very useful for British medals .