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Thanks Pat, I did something very similar. Mine is however unsigned and has a portrait that does not match with any other jeton of this type.

I wasn't expecting to have a problem with this even though it was unusually small, 24 mm. It was only on closer examination that i spotted that the obverse legend was off set.

Usually the top of the king's head comes between FR & ET NAV REX.

In this case it comes betwixt ET & NAV.

Anyone come across this before? I'm assuming that it is a Nuremberg copy.

Thanks Pat. With tokens like these and possibly the British India Victoria rupees the act of counting obscure pieces of shrubbery becomes a trial for me, as the second count never agrees with the first.

This has 8 acorns to the left and 7 to the right. Can anyone confirm this as D&H 17 please?

Sold at Baldwins last year

Are you aware of the Admiral Nelson mule with the Fear God etc. reverse? Supposedly by Kempson.

This one is known as the Children's Pledge

Thank you Pat. I used the entire legend in my search terms and also broke it down into pieces. Google, zilch. Bubkes. Nada. Rien.

I wish I had taken a picture of this when I first received it as a greenish disc. Fortunately the verdigris was only surface and olive oil has worked its magic. Still a little way to go but it is encouraging.

The subject matter is more difficult.

In commemoration of Frederick Oliver Earl de Grey attaining his majority.. January 29 1873.

I have yet to find any record of another, but that may be the search terms I'm using.

Thanks Pat, I too could find little information. I like your idea of the uniface copy although why buy one and not have it engraved? It's fairly likely that the first prize medals were gilt, at 61 mm that would have made solid gold a trifle expensive.

Not sure what this. The exhibition prize medals of the same size and design had a laurel wreath to the reverse and occur in bronze and silver. Could this be an unawarded first prize medal?

I'm wondering if this is some kind of hacienda or pulperia piece. It's marked C y AF Rossi who were responsible for some Argentinian medals about a century ago, although to my mind this looks to be later, and there is an Estancia El Polvorin in Santa Cruz, Argentina.

Brass, 24.5 mm.

This is a lovely site:

http://www.la-grille-verte.net/mmm/listjet.php

Thanks Ian. Mine has the corne mark and weighs in at 27 gr, so quite a bit heavier than the average. You have incidentally cleared up another of my niggling thoughts. I have a few medals stamped La Medaille, one even has the address, but I could never work out the connection to the Mint. I'm still wondering whether to carry on collecting these jetons, but a rather pretty Compagnie Generale Transatlantique has just come up for sale so I'm probably hooked.

Ian, I recently saw what would be an upgrade for the first jeton I bought;

But it was listed as 6 or 7 grams lighter than mine. Having checked a number of sales, it appears that the weights are all over the place. Is this common?

Twenty one inches.

Is it toning or lacquering?

Thanks Pat, you never cease to amaze.

Can anyone help me with this Dietzel RP? I can't even find anything similar.

Duplicate post

Another Ottley. WM 41.5 mm 16.7gr

This has solved a fifty something year old mystery. My father had one of these on which only the figures were ( barely) visible. Not one scrap of lettering to identify it. I suspect that it eventually landed up in the melting pot.

Interestingly, the stroke forming the N is only visible in the image, not in hand. Claude Bonnefond is not mentioned in Forrer so I guess that this medal is later than the book. Published 1904?