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  8. Swiss Shooting Medals

    in Exonumia (Tokens, Medals, etc) Forums

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    1859 Zürich, canton Zürich
    R1724d / M101
    Federal Free Shoot
    WM
    41 mm
    Engraver: Sebald Drentwett, Augsburg
    R
    In original paper wrapper issue - RRR

     

    Picture 1: The medal in UNC/issued condition (other than 154+ years in the paper wrapper)

    Picture 2: Shows the medal inside the original paper wrapper as issued.

    Picture 3: Shows the text written on the inside of the wrapper once unfolded. The paper wrapper is folded in such a way that it is tucked in to itself so it remains wrapped and intact.

     

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  11. Swiss Shooting Medals

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    Rod - I collect medals from World's Fairs - especially the 1904 St Louis fair - amazing how few boxes and paperwork are available for the medals - I did buy one on eBay once curiously enough from a seller in Great Britain and for a pittance of a price. I also collect the 1918-1920 Memorial Plaques or "death pennies" with original paperwork and it is even much more difficult to find them - but I did find the original mailer, paperwork etc for an American soldier that served in the Royal Army during the war.

    Hi,

     

    Finding medals in the original case is always a positive. I have been lucky enough to acquire some medals with the original winner's name tag on the case, medals with notes inside them regarding the shoot and or the recipient, and a number of souvenir medals that have their original price paperwork within. I have some very old shooting medals in their original paper wrappers as issued at the shoot. It is quite rewarding to find this type of paperwork included with a medal as you well know and it also increases the value of said medal.

  12. Swiss Shooting Medals

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    1911 Olten, canton Solothurn

    R1130a / M653

    Jubilee Shoot

    Gold

    23 mm

    Mintage: 60 pieces (without "A")

    Engraver: Holy Freres, St. Imier

    RRR

    In original case of issue.

     

    Please note that many sellers state original case of issue when a medal is available in a case. Unless the case is identified to the specific shoot or some other type of unique identifying feature then there is no "proof" that the case is the original one. Over the years many dealers have acquired cases that accept different millimeter diameters and have put medals in them, this does not make the case the original one. However, there are many cases that were not identified (embossed) in any way when awarded, thus in original case. Because of this, it is easy to call a case the original case of issue and many times it just may be but other times not...

     

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  16. Swiss Shooting Medals

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    Wow. Several of those I love. How much easier are they to come by vs. the medals?

     

    I can't read all of the years. Which is the oldest?

    Starting with the top row left to right:

     

    (1) Late 1920's, Distinction award, Silver (2) Mels 1928 (3) Bellinzona, Ticino 1929 (4) Bürglen, Thurgau 1932, Silver (5) Ranger Shoot, 1937, Silver

     

    (6) Langau, Bern 1937 (7) Section Competition, Vaud 1920, double sided (8) St. Galen 1929 (9) Late 1920's, Silver (10) 100 years of the Carabiniers 1925

     

    (11) Arosa, Grabünden, Winter Shoot 1937 (12) Brütten, Zürich 1933 (13) Reinach, Aargau 1935 (14) Bern, Bern 1926, Silver (15) Basel about 1930, Silver

     

     

    The abzeichen from the 1920's and 1930's and earlier are more difficult to find than common shooting medals. 1940's to 1960's are about as easy to obtain as common shooting medals and the abzeichen from the last 40 years are somewhat easier to find and obtain. The average market for the latter is about $5.00 - $10.00 and some of the older ones like those I have pictured are considerably more.

  17. Swiss Shooting Medals

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    I have not posted any pictures of Swiss shooting abzeichen (shooting badges/decorations) so I thought I would whet your appetite with a few rather old and rarer ones. Of the 15 pictured here, 7 of them are silver. Silver abzeichen are rare and usually the silver ones are from the 1920's and 1930's and earlier. I have seen abzeichen from the late 1800's and I'm sure most of you have seen the modern ones being sold as shooting medals on the bay.

     

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    Starting with the top row left to right:

     

    (1) Late 1920's, Distinction award, Silver (2) Mels 1928 (3) Bellinzona, Ticino 1929 (4) Bürglen, Thurgau 1932, Silver (5) Ranger Shoot, 1937, Silver

     

    (6) Langau, Bern 1937 (7) Section Competition, Vaud 1920, double sided (8) St. Galen 1929 (9) Late 1920's, Silver (10) 100 years of the Carabiniers 1925

     

    (11) Arosa, Grabünden, Winter Shoot 1937 (12) Brütten, Zürich 1933 (13) Reinach, Aargau 1935 (14) Bern, Bern 1926, Silver (15) Basel about 1930, Silver

     

     

    The abzeichen from the 1920's and 1930's and earlier are more difficult to find than common shooting medals. 1940's to 1960's are about as easy to obtain as common shooting medals and the abzeichen from the last 40 years are somewhat easier to find and obtain. The average market for the latter is about $5.00 - $10.00 and some of the older ones like those I have pictured are considerably more.

  18. Swiss Shooting Medals

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    Another double submission. Not sure why this is happening. Has this happened to anyone else recently?

    The last two times I submitted a post, when I clicked submit I received an error message when I used to just see my new post. After I refresh I see my post but there are two of them, so I delete the duplicate and add text and in this case this explanation.

     

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  19. Swiss Shooting Medals

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    1974 Tirol, Austria

    State Shoot
    Silver
    40mm

    Proof

    A modern shooting medal from Austria. I have always liked Austrian medals from the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries The more artistic and silver ones are somewhat difficult to come by since they do not come to market often, one reason is because there are fewer to begin with. I obtained this modern medal of 1974 because the engraving piqued my interest, it is larger than many Austrian silver shooting medals and at the time I had never seen this example offered.

     

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  22. Swiss Shooting Medals

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    Which cantons were most prolific? rarest? most prized?

    Geneve and Zürich are the most prolific with Obwalden being the least. I would say the Ticino has some of the most rare medals however due to mintage there are many very rare medals from all Cantons. Unique medals are without a doubt the most prized and these again can be from multiple Cantons.

  25. Swiss Shooting Medals

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    Hello my name is Pavel, I am new to the boards. Have been collecting Swiss Shooting medals for the past 3 years or so.

    I am tiny bit familiar with Rod Moore as I have bought several medals from his latest consignment several months ago.

     

    Rod, I am glad I found this thread. You have posted great pieces from your collection. Of course as mentioned by many people here the photos are amazing. I also noticed that even with some common pieces you posted, the condition is absolutely pristine (patina and surfaces). Also the cups and pokals you showed are just fantastic. You never mentioned but are these almost unique pieces? Do you have a sense of how many of these survived or were made to begin with.

     

    Hopefully we can keep this thread going, and perhaps you can share more knowledge and pictures with us. I also hope other people here continue to share their new additions as well.

    Hi Pavel,

     

    I hope you are enjoying your recently acquired schützenfest medals. I too am glad you found the CoinPeople forum and this thread. I love this hobby and it is my hope to be able to enlighten and educate whoever I can.

     

    Schützenfest awards were given out in many forms with the most common being medals. Pokal and bechers were the more important award and the quantities of them especially the pokal were very limited. Some are surely unique but many were awarded in very limited numbers. Watches, both pocket and wrist were awards, clocks, silverware, sculptures, guns, etc. the list goes on and on. One of the many tasks of the schützenfest committee or the subset thereof, the award committee, was to solicit the local merchants for awards and or money. Because of this, awards came in many forms, but the schützenfest medal, pokal, and becher were the most common/official award given.

     

    Jean Martin, who published the first "bible" of schützenfest medals also published a catalog of pokal and bechers. Mintage data is rare to find but not unheard of. The rarity of pokal is evident in there pricing and frequency seen for sale. Bechers (small cups, the size of of a small glass) are seen more often but still rare in comparison the medals. Pokal and bechers are usually .800 silver and are commonly gold gilt wash on the inside of the cup.

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