one-kuna

you are welcome, my corresponder has not answered yet regarding better/alternative site so that is my silence for; my new coin looks like 1810 but can be as well 1810-1814 SPB-PS with letters "DAVI..", what do yuo think?

for review/update of your current image on the rarity of 1810 copper coins is highly recommended the latest issue (#89) of the journal of russian numismatic society with Steve Moulding study in Imperial Russian coins

majority collectors in russia DO NOT collect novodels

if netFish can read russian,- one of the best article on this subjest is: I Spassky "on the NOVODEL coins" in a book "Proshloe nashei rodiny v pamyatnikax numizmatiki" pp105-125, well ill. Engilsh summary on page 214-215: Novodels are copies of old Russain coins which were manufactured by mints for over 200 years. The majority of them come from the St.Petersburg mint (XVIII-XIX c) and the Ekaterinburg mint (XIX c). It is also possible that Moscow mint took part in their manufacture during the XVIII c. The manufacture of novodels arose from the legalized practice of making medals to order. In St. Petersburg, this was common immediately after the mint started work again in 1738. In the same way as the cracked medal dies were replaced by new ones, a small number of coin dies were recopied and kept in store in anticipation of fresh orders. In time this led to the appearance of various "hybrids": the more fanciful among them were manufactured illegally by workmen in the mint, who had access to the dies. The novodels had some weak points as far as their technical aspects were concerned (dimensions, weight, metal, standard, edges).As a rule, edging instruments did not survive. It is possible to divide novodels into the following groups (not counting the "hybrid" combination): 1.late stamping with authentic dies 2.stamping with copies of dies 3.re-stamping with dies cut after previously issued coins, or even after their reproductions in books 4.copying of coins which were produced by mints other than the one involved 5.striking with "borrowed" dies 6.the manufacture of coins which did not exist before A great many die-copies of all types were destroyed in the St.Petersburg circa 1840, but since then there were two huge issues of novodels in Ekaterinburg, which included coins from other mints as well. Perhaps one of the first "invented" novodel is a denga of Peter the Great, bearing a Latin inscription and dating from 1700. The Manufacture of novodels coins was officially prohibited in the 1870s. Any questions, please ask one-kuna

another one 1810, just lost another side somewhere

just came in

mine is not for sale, do you sell yours 2 kopeks with large digits in date?

glad to hear it this is mine:

if this year (1810) is interesting to so many watchers, may be it is a time to place in this post all others 2 kopeks of this year (1810) ??

CONCLUSION: MODERN CAST COPY FROM GOLD

another both sides large crown 2 kopeks of 1810 chiken type came up, condition is not so good but rare

very interesting and informative link, some coins part of this forum http://coins.kabb.ru/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=176

as I understood from above, this coin was purchased as a part of someone collection (so assuming not so expensive), and this coin especially was very desirable for a long time by the person who presents a photo (мишутка - Mishutka, probably Michael), and this person is locating in Russia and asking this forum how much do WE think this coin can cost over here ?

there probably is a big diffrence between how much was it paid for and how much is the asking price now

beatiful coin, all money

did you get it

i was wondering, how does "schmutz" accurately bypassed the coat of arm, that a horseman left undamaged and is observed very well, may be because of frame of coat of arm prevented it from metal flow, also look at second 1 in a date - very wide one

http://www.coinarchives.com/9b6f455841a088.../image02143.jpg

if put on a side a large/large crown variant for a moment, there is an average statistic of weekly running chiken/bee type on the most largest russian auction molotok: Bitkin 343.........6 pieces Bitkin 344........72 pieces Bitkin 345.........- pieces Bitkin 346.........2 pieces

thank you for showing , also a pic not opening properly somehow

lets back to the business without any counts