Ætheling

MMD will be issuing CP dollars, I will be overseeing CP Monetary Fund gold reserves. 

CP has gold reserves?

As long as they aren't convertible. 

 

For now only two banks are licensed to issue international CP currency. 

Wow i've got a license!

Anton if you don't mind me asking, will you be issuing all the CP Dollars?

Thanks! I could not remember if they were clad or plated and I didn't have one handy to look at the edge.

Wow i always thought they were an alloy...

Those are for Short Snorters 2005. Completely different project.

 

We'll be like Hong Kong, every bank issues its own notes. 

Yep that's right, these Coinpeople Dollars are being issued by the 'Bank of Coinpeople', the Short Snorters and the Guineas (for the British Popular Coin Idol project) are being issued by the 'Imperial Bank of Coinpeople'.

The respective banks are based in different countries.

I'll take a set if there are some left,

Why is Africa outlined in red?

 

Count me in on the passing of the bucks.

 

Dan

If i'd seen this sooner!

Ah the red, when i intially took the map all the continents were coloured in, i managed to shift most of it, but the 300 and odd different (minutely so) shades of red, green and blue around the edges was gona take a heck of alot of time to shift properly, and anyway the outline actually helps the design a little i find. Keeps the countries looking slimmer... (and the right shape).

80cents?  I can print mine as low as 5cents, including the cost of papers and ink per page... 

Well that's the prices they charge 40p per sheet for colour, it's only 5p for black and white. If my own printer still worked i could have printed dozens off now for a fraction of that price! (actually about the same as yours).

The S mint would have been ploughing out notes unstoppable. As it is that's unlikely at present.

I talked to some other collectors, and some of the best arguments out from that is that anything that's considered legal tender is definately a modern issue. Most probably, the modern issues should include at least 3 sets of previous "legal tender" issued coins, i.e. 3 generations, to make them fairly modern...

So British Large Size 1997 50p coins are not modern because they were replaced with smaller ones that year and were demonestised in early 1998?

And pre-euro coinage like DMs and Francs issued in the last year before the euro are also not modern?

Ah well there we go then. A mint will be rarer still.

So if we make 7 full short snorter sets, six S mint ones and an A mint set.

Four S sets free to a good home (already decided), one set stays with me, and the other one will be auctionned off as and when i'm ready.

So getting them shall be tricky.

What software did you use for these? Could you send me editable source files?

Oli was kind enough to send me some preliminary examples of these notes denominated in Ducats rather than Dollars.

Ducat feels far more international that say Dollar. I feel a denomination change would be a good move, makes the forum feel more inclusive.

I love these. Wonderful design and idea.

 

I agree with Art. Fantastic, i loved the design before with Shrek on, but was inclined against because of the copyright. But now there is no copyright issue so i heartly back this one, 100% as the best of the lot.

If McDoo doesn't want it, then i do!

If anyone else wants a preliminary run of official 'S' mint Snorters then they will begin to appear in the auction section shortly.

Depending upon demand this might just be one or two sets to be auctioned off or as many as five more sets (although five is unlikely because of printing restrictions on this end as it costs me quite alot to print them, about 80c per note as i don't have my own printer). Going on the demand so far the free sets were snapped up in a morning, and a relatively quiet morning at that.

Anyone who does not get an 'S' mint set will have to wait for the official release of the 'A' mint sets by Art, these A sets will be the ones used in the short snorter run and thus will have a far higher mintage.

Flags hey?

Now there is an idea that i do like!

Right;

601 = Ætheling (well i had to keep one set!)

602 = gxseries (if you want them)

603 = Trantor

604 = Kuhli

605 = Emperor Oli

That's it all the free sets have been claimed.

OH WOW, now that's something neat.

 

Question: *ARE THEY PURCHASABLE IF ONE REALLY WANT THEM SO BADLY? ? *

What the Short Snorters?

If you want a set then i can print a set off. The ones i print off will probably differ in paper to the regular 'A' Mint sets, and they will have an 'S' mintmark "Subsidary Mint". Mintmark's not the right word i'm sure but it'll do.

If you want a full set of them ahead of schedule you only have to ask on here in this thread. This goes for everyone else too, although i should point out that the 'S' marked notes will only be printed off in very small numbers, perhaps five full sets, maybe 10 at a push if demand warrants it. (Of which i'll keep one set myself).

Oh and i'll send out the first four sets free of charge.

First four sets will be numbered;

CPSS 01602-CPSS 01605 (1 Snort)

CPSS 05602-CPSS 05605 (5 Snorts)

CPSS 10602-CPSS 10605 (10 Snorts)

CPSS 20602-CPSS 20605 (20 Snorts)

CPSS 50602-CPSS 50605 (50 Snorts)

CPSS 99602-CPSS 99605 (100 Snorts)

Sets will be provided with the last three serial numbers on each note matching.

The first four sets will be given away (first come, first served), another five sets will be auctioned off for a CP fund, which i'll build up over several months at this end until it's reasonable amount and then i'll mail it to Anton.

I think that's about it...

Would you like the notes signing by me?

And would you like a free complimentary set of 'S' mint Guinea notes to go with that? I'll reserve gxseries a set of those notes.

So that means there's only three sets left free and up for grabs!

They go to print tomorrow.

I am not so sure that is correct. There is a concept of "Fair Use' but I do not think these notes would fall into that as they would be promotional items at teh very least.

 

You can probably print out a photo of Shrek and share with your friends but if you are using an image of Shrek to promote something (like a website), you are probably in trouble.

I'm not being awkward for the sake of it here McDoo, but i agree with Stujoe. You might wonder why i seem to be trying to put the brakes on here. But i have watched members of an entire coin community have legal action taken against them. Some indeed might have said or done things which would leave themselves open. Others well, we're still not entirely sure what they did to get on the list but on it they got for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And McDoo never underestimate what turns up on ebay, i've seen people selling prosthetic testicles and glass eyes. (Which was quite a joke on this forum at one point), and i've even seen promotional material being sold on ebay... stuff that you'd never expect to turn up in a million years. You simply cannot be too careful.

Well that's my position on the topic. If you want to go ahead and use the Shrek theme then i hope you're successful, but i want to be left well out of it. I've got enough stuff on at the moment without walking into a copyright dispute.

How about a real general retarded answer, that is, anything that is the 21th century is considered VERY modern, and the rest isn't

I think that's when we either get to post-modern or revisionist.

One has to remember that the mints took a serious view on how coins had to be properly minted, as in, they cannot mint one coin a lot heavier than the other, and yet call it the same value, i.e. weight control issues. I am edging more towards the defination of modern coinage when politics had a serious view on how coins played a role in the economy, and when serious tests were conducted to make sure that coins were made so that they were not too different from each other, in terms of weight, size and alloy content.

The days when people found counterfeiting were hung and people producing underweight coins were castrated and otherwise mutilated by having their right hand removed without anæsthetic... ah those were the good old days when money was serious business and it was generally all about protecting the intrinsic standard of the currency. Not about maximising mint profits... oh how far we have degraded ourselves.

On the other hand, it's probably illegal to print out pictures of Kermit the Frog and sell them for $5.00 each.

Which in turn means it's also illegal to sell the old coin people notes as collectors items to the members on the forum in say 10 years time.

What would happen if say a member got hold of one and sent it to a friend who then decided to sell it on ebay as a novelty piece?

Yep, our tastes are a "little" different, to say the least. And I won't even go into our differing opions on hammered coins.

 

Vive la difference.

 

I think one of the few coins we agree on is the Gothic!

Coins that are totally intoxicated by alcoholic beverages are always good...

Gothics are good!

Wow a store that takes them!

The Post Office would not even take my £5 coin back, unless i was using it as part of a purchase. Even then they took some convincing, funny that cos they sold me the thing in the first place.

You always have been a sucker for those Washers. It is a nice design back in the days of the nice relief silvers.

I got a whole pile of the damn things here. I have more Washington Quarters than any other US coin going.

Never did agree on US coin designs did we Stu? I rate Washers and $20 Libs as the best US coins ever and you rate the Incuse Indians and worse still the Buffs...

What makes no sense is that in 1981, a crown (and we are talking a crown sized coin, since the crown valued coins stopped long before then) had a face value of 25p.  Yet a few years later, when the next crown was issued in 1990, it had a face value of £5.  Some crazy inflation going on over there, or what?!?!

I can field that one. The mint wanted to produce commemoratives, but as you can imagine producing massive 25p coins and issuing them at banks for 25p was not entirely profit friendly.

Thus the mint axed the old 25p crowns (which were proper crowns and they are Kuhli). In their place they introduced a totally new coin, same alloy, same size, this was the new decimal £5 coin. Bearing in mind they had issued gold pre-decimal £5 coins in the past which were nearly the same size. (Actually pre-decimal pounds and decimal pounds are exactly the same, no change in value).

What confused things were the mint marketed these new £5 coins as 'crown sized coins', and thus people just started calling them crowns for short, because people are generally lazy. That's why it gets so confusing. Imagine being a UK shop keeper that is being harrased by a customer who slaps a 1977 25p coin down and demands it's a £5 coin... (it does happen, albeit rarely). The shop keepers refuse to take them, the bank refuse to take either the 25p or the £5 coins and thus many of the 25p coins get skimmed across the street by the angry person that couldn't get shut of it at the local petrol station. I know cos the petrol station employee went outside and picked it up.

I admire the dedicated Specialist but know myself well enough to realize it would leave a very big, empty space in my collecting needs and desires.

I dunno i'm getting towards specialist step by step, i'm down to five collections at the moment, all of which require between 8-14 coins for a full set in each.

So i'm getting there... slowly but surely.

A-ha! So much for that Fiji FIFA piece being the world's very first "countdown" coin ...  As for the battery, I suppose it will simply be dead after some time. That would not matter very much (to me) provided that the rest of the coin is nicely designed.

 

Christian

Am i not wrong in thinking spent batteries could spring a leak in time?

Then how good would your coin be?

I am a reformed hoarder turned generalist. 

I'm a reforming generalist turning specialist...

(And failing).