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Sorry, no pics are available. I'm working toward gaining that capability.

You have a good chance of finding rolls of new stuff at large retailers like Walmart or Home Depot. They get their rolled coin from the armored car services just as banks do, but they have to replenish more often than banks do.

" Tan said coins should not be polished as it would damage the surface and bring down the value. "

Words to live by. ;-)

The days when people found counterfeiting were hung and people producing underweight coins were castrated and otherwise mutilated by having their right hand removed without anæsthetic... ah those were the good old days when money was serious business and it was generally all about protecting the intrinsic standard of the currency. Not about maximising mint profits... oh how far we have degraded ourselves.

Very solidly presented observation. When coins were an absolute standard of a country's currency value, the Pound Sterling was the world's leading currency simply because the British silver and gold coins were of a higher fineness than the coins of other countries. A banknote issued on a British bank was convertible directly into British coinage while a US note would be discounted if converted into British coinage at a standard determined by ASW or AGW of the coinage tendered in exchange for the note.

Coinage made of precious metal is different from coinage made of base metal in that no legal tender law is necessary in order to establish the value of the precious metal coin. Legal tender laws are the means by which governments arrogate to themselves ownership of the assets held by their subjects, even when those subjects flatter themselves that they are citizens rather than subjects.

When a government can revalue a currency at will, then all the money in a country's economy is ultimately the property of the issuing authority and there is no longer any real right to property of any kind. When the money of a country is precious metal coin, the money itself is the property of the bearer, no matter what imprint it bears because that coin can be melted, refined and presented in its pure form as the commodity of which it's composed.

That basic fact is what makes precious metal coinage the enemy of government's claim on the property of its citizenry.

No Liberty indeed. They've been phasing out even the idea of liberty for decades, so they may as well dump it from the coins.

The '84 CC I sold the weekend the old CP crashed was most likely a GSA crackout. It was probably a 65 or thereabouts. It was listed on the WTS forum at the old site but the site was down when I tried to check for PMs on it.

I'll send you a P buff for a D buff.

I'm a hoarder who specializes in silver and gold coins.

When I think modern, I think of the current base metal/clad coinage era. That pretty much goes for any country. I do not think that is the 'accepted' definition, though, especially among older or long time collecters.

That's what I regard as modern, too. I know that most of the dealers I frequent refer to anything milled as "modern" with earlier production techniques being broken into ancient, early and/or medieval.

Don't worry about asking questions. That's the whole point of a forum, to be able to ask and read what several different people say on a subject.

Welcome aboard. You can learn enough about coins to build a collection through circulation searching and trading. You'll be surprised at how much easier it is to get great coins once you've learned about them. Great coins aren't all expensive. Many can be had at face value if you're observant and devoted to searching.

One way that the coin was possibly made would be to take the 42 copper cent  and place it between two 43 steel cents, and tighten them in a vise or a 20 ton shop press.

A steel cent could probably be welded to a rod of the same diameter and the whole thing hardened to make a hub, and that used to make a die which would then be hardened.......'Course then you could produce a '43 bronze with any blank planchet you happened to buy with an upset rim. The slight size difference you'd get by using a coin for a hub would throw the whole thing into a cocked hat, though.

I guess you'd end up trying to hustle it on ebay. ahaha

Slabbing is no solution. The slabs allow the coin to react to the atmosphere because they aren't actually airtight. Larry's method with Kointains and 2x2s sounds good but the kointains come in a limited number of sizes.

Keep us updated on what you find out. I've been slogging along with 2x2s and pocket pages for so long that I can't dream of anything else. 'Course I've never had a coin ruined in a 2x2 except when some butterfingers (usually me) dropped the thing.

Type only for me. I've never felt the urge for assembling a date set.

Hmmmm.........no interest in this bargain? I'll leave it up until Monday then it's going to be shipped.

Sold

Germany Kaiserreich K17 one half mark silver

1905-A F $2.50

1909-F VF+ toned $4.00

postpaid in US. Add $.80usd for int'l airmail.

Sold

5 centime K842:

1898 VF+ muted but colorful toning $3.00

1911 VF even coloring $1.00

10 centime K771.2 1857-B G w/ rim bumps $3.00

1 Franc: K844.1

1917 EF, toned 2 available @$2.00

1918 EF toned 2 available @$2.00

1918 AU nice toning $3.00

$.50 for single coin, 1st class domestic. $.80 int'l airmail combined postage on purchase of multiples will reduce per coin mailing cost.

Classic head, 1828 half cent 12 stars, Fine. Original surfaces, good color. Odd, small lamination peeling on reverse in rim denticles at 2 0'clock and in field nearby.

$60.00 plus $2.50 1st class insured domestic. $9.00usd International airmail registered pouch.

Sold

All sold

Barber half dollars:

1905-S G $12.00 sold

1906-O G $10.00 sold

1911-S G $10.00

Barber dimes:

1909-O G+ $4.00 sold

1910 G $2.00

1914-S G $3.00sold

$.50 per coin for domestic, or $.80 int'l airmail

Sold 1913 Type I Brilliant Uncirculated, very strong reverse strike, full luster.

$45.00 plus $1.75 1st class insured domestic postage.

Add $9.00 for int'l airmail registered pouch.

Bureaucrats and politicians will seize upon any pretext to further their control over people's private business. I despise them all.

Must not have been much of a safe. Wasn't much of an inventory either, apparently.

I like circs myself, except for lincolns.  I hate circulated Lincolns.

Lincolns are the hardest coins for me to grade with my aging eyesight. I've stopped buying them for resale except to pick up singles in semi-key dates.

Almost all of them from folks on this forum, with 90% of them from Blackhawk, and Ed. Where are they anyway, not much for sale lately

I'm listing a few things but a large amount of my inventory is tied up in anticipation of a trade I've been working on. Bill has been kind of MIA lately. Wonder where he is?

I buy from two world dealers online who are more or less wholesalers, from people who come to my jewelry kiosk and to my setup at a rural flea market, and from a bullion dealer in Richmond who gets the most amazing variety of gold and silver coins and jewelry. I buy from members here and from jewelry repair customers, antique and junk dealers, and from pawnbrokers.

That's the short list of sources. There are other dealers online who provide small lots and singles from time to time. The list expands every year that I keep dealing in coins and jewelry.

By some reports ol' Ben was also a British agent who provided cover for at least one double agent while serving as the US ambassador to France. If that's true, the commem wouldn't have anything to do with that.