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Looks natural to me. Some of the old albums could do that sort of thing to a reverse and the end of a roll could do it. I'm more partial to the shades of blue I see on the Baltic states silver that was bagged for a long time. I have a 1925 2 Lati with some nice dark blue in the recesses of the reverse.

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I got a returned mail notice on that address. Is it correct in the post?

The iron coin issues are usually kriegsgeld , aren't they?

I can't help other than to say I like it.

Naaaahhhh, ebay still has its allure for millions of people worldwide. Someday there could be serious competition but it hasn't arrived yet. That sounds funny, I know, coming from someone who isn't much of an ebay booster.

Depending on the type, XF or better is what I prefer. Barbers, Victorian low reliefs, SLQs, French Indochina Piastres and fractionals all have detail which is completely lost below a VF and is sometimes partly compromised at that grade.

No, I don't agree that it's whizzed. It has been wiped over and over while in an album, most likely. Most high grade circulated US coins like that have been treated that way, at least those over 100 years old. For most of the history of coin collecting there was no taboo concerning coin cleaning so long as the coin wasn't treated with abrasives or polishing compounds.

I'd agree that the coin has been cleaned, but wouldn't go so far as to call it whizzed. As to the odd look of the date, look closely at the plastic covering in your album. A horizontal scratch in the plastic and some waviness there is probably what's causing that optical effect in the pic.

I voted for exonumia. Even though they were nominally official issues, notgeld and kriegsgeld were still basically tokens since they were made of common industrial materials, ( some of those materials weren't even metals) and because they were issued by local authorities which weren't actually empowered to issue money.

I'd like to hear the views of others on the subject.

Just say No to fuzy things with coins!  Unless they are free, then burn the fuzy thing and keep the coin!

Ahaha......the attempt to couple the moribund beanie baby hobby with the noble and popular coin collecting hobby will surely end in disgrace. ;-)

. American's fear change because they are, overall, lazy and uncultured. .....

 

I am leaving the US.

 

 

There's the main thrust of your argument. I took the liberty of condensing it for you. So long. Enjoy wherever you end up.

"The owners gave him a $300 reward and a silver coin. He has that, plus his integrity, which is something you can't put a value on."

Absolutely correct.

The coin below is like what I am trying to get my hands on, only in better condition.

 

Last year I threw in a few of those with a lot I sold. They were in AU and had turned up in a lot I bought. Check with Bob Reis. He has a good inventory of that sort of modern coin.

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Similar surfaces, but this one has no colorful toning. It's about typical for the grade since these circulated a bit to arrive at VF. My idea of VF is that the loop in the braid has worn flat but the rest of the facial features are still very bold. I've seen examples worn more than this one offered as XF, but we know better here. ;-)

Naturally, you have a full return privilege if you decide it's not to your liking.

nevermind

I edited the lead post since the other sterlings sold. This is just so latecomers to the thread don't think they're in the twilight zone. ;-)

The $2 isn't a failure, per se,(just a victim of design like the 50c) and at current cash/inflation rates the $2 is still effective in paper form. Without a Dollar bill folks will use the Sac and the $2. The concept works well in other places, the gov't just has to put it into place in the USA.

 

As for the Sac being a failure, not really. The marketing campaign was bad, and the colour is fading, but the transit and postal uses are going strong. If the Dollar bill goes away people will use the sac. Much like the looney in Canada and the pound coin in Britain.

 

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You're wrong about the $2 note. It's an inconvenient denomination and has never been a popular circulating note at any point in history when it was released. The failure of the $2 note has nothing whatsoever to do with the design, it's a matter of the number of denominations necessary for making change in a base 10 numerical system.

I've seen no evidence at all to support your claims about the Sac not being a failure. The design wasn't the problem, nor was the "marketing" strategy. Dollar coins are viewed as clumsy and inconvenient by those of us who use a lot of cash for one simple reason: they truly are clumsy and inconvenient to handle in everyday commerce. Dollar coins are being used almost exclusively in federally owned vending machines and they simply don't circulate besides their little trips from the post office to the banks.

If people liked using $2 notes and $1 coins then those denominations would be popular. They aren't, which should show the hard headed, non cash using proponents of these silly instruments something.

Just as an experiment, how many people here on this thread who favor the $1 coin and the $2 note meet these two conditions:

1. Live and do business in the US

2. Use cash as their primary tender when doing business.

Those who don't meet these two criteria may as well realize that the change they're proposing has been tried repeatedly and has just as repeatedly failed to prove its worth in our monetary system and that failure has been for very sound reasons not based on any stubborness or unreasoned resistance to change on the part of the cash handling public.

Having no coinshop nearby doesn't have to be an obstacle. Watch the advertising forums here and PM the advertisers who have coins for trade or sale. Letting other members know what you want to acquire can help you find some starter pieces or lots.

Most members here do some buying online and know of good online dealers who are trustworthy.

Glad you like it. The cleaning was very mild apparently. It looked as though someone gave it an ammonia dipping to remove the colorful toning. Bet it tones back to some nice hues over the next decade or so.

These are even worse than the painted reverses I keep seeing. Probably turn out to be a rather poor marketing idea.

I just don't understand how much more useful 1 dollar bills are nowadays besides tipping and probably fanciful errors.

You'd understand if you handled a lot of cash in your business. The most used notes, from the standpoint of merchants in small retail are ones and fives. The most convenient for purchasers are the larger notes. One dollar notes will become impractical only when the dollar takes the place of the cent as the smallest unit of money, not before.

By my estimate, $200 would be a fair offer. Buying the whole run should entitle you to that much of a bargain, while not being unfair to the seller.

As much as I like coins, they're a pain in the neck for doing business. It's easy to carry and conceal several hundred dollars in $1 notes but several hundred in coins would be a load. If the $1 note disappeared, then pricing at cash only markets would jump to $5 increments. We're almost at that point now anyway with inflation and the demise of small notes would push the subsurface economy (such as bazaars and flea markets) the rest of the way.

The dollar coin is probably going to happen pretty soon. I'll deal with it when it does.

Why does the good stuff have to go to ebay? List some of it here on the WTS forum and save the fees if it sells.